# Salamander? Was this TRULY the best you could do?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 25, 2003, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711 "2003-09-25T10:50:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/21 "2003-09-25T16:14:10Z")

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That’s the ugliest motherfucking font I’ve ever seen in my life. My eyes developed pustules just from looking at it, and the part of my brain that connects to my optic nerve just jumped out of my ear and ran out of the room screaming “I’m leaving you!”

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/22 "2003-09-25T17:21:52Z")

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😃

It’s just that it’s SO. DAMN. BAD. I mean, people make fonts that are deliberately scribbly or wacky in some way, but at least they’re thematic (like Ransom, for instance). This Salamander font is just what we call in the South “pure tee shit”.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/23 "2003-09-25T17:23:43Z")

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Long ago, on a forum far away, I used “Salamander” as my user name. This was close to ten years ago now, but even so I read the subject line and briefly thought “Uh oh, my first Pitting! What’d I do?”

Luckily, it was just some font. Phew!

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/24 "2003-09-25T17:30:22Z")

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That rant was truly inspired. I’m putting it in the Page O Flames. Brilliant!

And yes, it’s a useless, lame-ass font. Why would anyone download it?

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**Author:** ![Sat\_on\_Cookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@Sat\_on\_Cookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sat_on_Cookie)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/25 "2003-09-25T17:55:16Z")

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I POOP better fonts than that.

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**Author:** ![Alereon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alereon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alereon)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/26 "2003-09-25T18:03:03Z")

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DAMN that’s a shitty font.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/27 "2003-09-25T18:38:56Z")

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I _like_ Salamander.

But that ain’t it – Oh lord, that ain’t it.

[Lino Salamander](http://www.fontpool.com/fonts/linotype/linotype_salamander.html).

(I guess if a font is going to be flamed, though-- [“Salamander” is a natural choice.](http://www.bartleby.com/81/14772.html))

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/28 "2003-09-25T20:07:44Z")

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The morals of a country can be determined by the quality of its free downloadable fonts. We must do everything we can to arrest this dreadful backslide into depravity and ugly text. Well pitted, **Lib**.

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**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/29 "2003-09-25T21:00:26Z")

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Next time, choose a bigger target, like Comic Sans MS. Ugh, just seeing it makes me want to gouge out my eyes.

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/30 "2003-09-25T22:49:49Z")

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Salamander? I hardly know her!

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/31 "2003-09-25T23:08:22Z")

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I dunno. Maybe I’m just oppositional for the sake of being oppositional. But I kind of want to publish something just so that I could use that font. It seems kind of beautiful in a horrible way.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/32 "2003-09-25T23:16:34Z")

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[You’re certainly not alone there](http://bancomicsans.20megsfree.com/photos.html), **Already in Use**.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/33 "2003-09-25T23:42:15Z")

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That font _disproves_ the existence of God.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/34 "2003-09-26T00:13:26Z")

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It _is_ and ugly font, and while we’re on the subject.  
THERE ARE ENOUGH GODDAMN FONTS ALREADY! THE WORLD DOESN’T NEED ANY MORE!

Every day at my job I get files with fonts I’ve never heard of that I have to install (_and half the time the customers forget to include the font files in the first place, but that’s not a font problem, I know that’s just the damn customers_), so now I have about 8,000 fonts on one of my computers and most of them were only ever used once. But I can’t get rid of them because you never know if they’ll be used again, even though most of them look like slight variations on Helvetica, Caslon, Garamond, or a script font!

Oh, sure there are a few neat ones that I’ve used in my own lettering from time to time, but really. Give it up. How many sans serifs does the world need? How many versions of Futura?

Whew. That felt good.

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**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/35 "2003-09-26T00:18:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by robertliguori \*  
> \*\*TVAA, don’t be an ass. I’d criticize you for posting outside your usual area, but since you are in fact being an ass, I can’t. Ferchrissake, we all know that you bear a deep and secret longing for **Lib** , **Poly** , and the rest of the Thoughtful Religious. Can’t you please work out a more mature way of sharing your feelings? \*\*

Ridiculous. I like **Polycarp** : his willingness to admit that his beliefs cannot be logically justified makes him more than tolerable.

Now, I have a deep personal loathing for **Libertarian** , and I object to your characterization of him as “Thoughtful Religious”.

In any case, take a look around. This isn’t GD any more, Toto. And this really is a remarkably pathetic thing to spend cognitive resources on. C’mon, a font? A _free_ shareware font?

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**Author:** ![Siegfried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Siegfried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siegfried)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/36 "2003-09-26T00:23:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Already in Use \*  
> \*\*Next time, choose a bigger target, like Comic Sans MS. \*\*

Awww, but I like Comic Sans MS. ☹

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**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/37 "2003-09-26T00:43:19Z")

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You do?

BAN HIM WITH THE BAN bALL!

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**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/38 "2003-09-26T03:05:20Z")

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Heh. **Polycarp** : More than Tolerable. We should keep that if the Poly/Esprix campaign gets off the ground.

Look, we both agree that **Lib** has beaten the Modal Ontological Argument that Dare Not Speak Its Name to the point where the horse has died, been ground to paste, spread evenly over several square meters of sidewalk, and had chunks of concrete mixed in with the horse-paste, and said chunks ground to powder. But he’s not talking about tMOAtDNSIN. You are. Please, give it a rest until he brings it up again.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/39 "2003-09-26T12:09:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by photopat \*  
> Oh, sure there are a few neat ones that I’ve used in my own lettering from time to time, but really. Give it up. How many sans serifs does the world need? How many versions of Futura?

I agree. The only new fonts that should be released are specialized fonts. We already have enough “totally normal” fonts to last us.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salamander-was-this-truly-the-best-you-could-do/203711/40 "2003-09-26T13:25:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by TVAA \*  
> \*\* And this really is a remarkably pathetic thing to spend cognitive resources on. C’mon, a font? A _free_ shareware font? \*\*

I thought **Libertarian** was just having fun with it. In which case, even if he isn’t, why are you wasting your time complaining about a guy complaining about a font?

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