# Sallah is Gimli?!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 1, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792 "2010-08-01T14:44:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/21 "2010-08-01T20:44:17Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Holy crap, Elrond is Agent Smith?!

I think someone might be forgiven if they didn’t know he was V.

Rhys-Davies was also the narrator in Quest for Glory IV, which was pleasant surprise at the time. And the Professor in “Sliders.”

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/22 "2010-08-01T20:49:22Z")

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And “Macbeth” in [Gargoyles](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108783/fullcredits#cast)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/23 "2010-08-01T20:52:51Z")

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> And I was wrong. Jackson was able to pull it off and it worked so flawlessly most people didn’t even realize he was doing it.

This is the measure of great special effects. When you ask people how they liked the effects in the _Lord of the Rings_ movies, most folks will tell you what they thought of the Balrog, or the Eye of Sauron, or the Ringwraiths. Nobody ever notices that there were special effects at work in almost every scene of the movie.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/24 "2010-08-01T21:02:31Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> > [@Steophan](#):
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> > Ian McKellan’s not a real wizard either, sorry to break it to you!
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> You _lie!_

Sit down, there’s something I have to tell you about Santa Claus…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/25 "2010-08-01T21:13:58Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> > [@Steophan](#):
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> > Ian McKellan’s not a real wizard either, sorry to break it to you!
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> You _lie!_

No, it’s true. He used his mutant powers to fake the magic.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/26 "2010-08-01T21:14:45Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Holy crap, Elrond is Agent Smith?!

No, he’s a cross-dresser who does FABULOUS cabaret shows.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/27 "2010-08-01T22:05:54Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> > The actors that played the hobbits weren’t particularly short, either.
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> I knew that, but all this time I thought that they’d casted a little person as Gimli. \>.\<

I’m shocked that you didn’t recognize him as the professor from **Sliders**.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/28 "2010-08-01T22:59:11Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> > [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > So they used CGI to make him look like one? 😛
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> That and a pointy hat. Which does make me think, if I were a wizard, I’d take off my hat and get up to all kinds of undercover shenanigans with people non the wiser!

[I put on my robe and wizard hat](http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/bloodninja) (old and somewhat NSFW.)

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/29 "2010-08-01T23:21:16Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Ian McKellan’s not a real wizard either, sorry to break it to you!  
> 😃

No, but he is a fairy. 😉

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/30 "2010-08-01T23:56:01Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> > [@Steophan](#):
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> > That and a pointy hat. Which does make me think, if I were a wizard, I’d take off my hat and get up to all kinds of undercover shenanigans with people non the wiser!
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> [I put on my robe and wizard hat](http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/bloodninja) (old and somewhat NSFW.)

See, that’s why I’d take the hat off. If he’d have done that, all would’ve been fine 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/31 "2010-08-02T00:52:55Z")

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If we’re going back to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark I was more suprised to find out “Throw me the idol, I throw you the whip” Sapito later became Spiderman 2’s Doc Ock.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/32 "2010-08-02T00:56:13Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> If we’re going back to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark I was more suprised to find out “Throw me the idol, I throw you the whip” Sapito later became Spiderman 2’s Doc Ock.

…

…

I can’t breathe.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/33 "2010-08-03T12:43:15Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> I’m shocked that you didn’t recognize him as the professor from **Sliders**.

That’s how I recognized him as well. But, the thing is, I still assumed he was actually short, and that I’d just never noticed on _Sliders_. Not little person short, but the 5’7" quoted for Monaghan would make sense.

Heck, even the old thread linked here said the actors were short. Six foot one is not short.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/34 "2010-08-03T12:48:00Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> > [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > I knew that, but all this time I thought that they’d casted a little person as Gimli. \>.\<
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> I’m shocked that you didn’t recognize him as the professor from **Sliders**.

Never even heard of it until now.

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**Author:** ![Mooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mooch)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/35 "2010-08-03T12:52:37Z")

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Also, one of the crew members of Katenga’s steamer ship The Bantu Wind (the guy who holds his fellow crew back from the Nazis) is none other than Chocolate Mousse from Top Secret!

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/36 "2010-08-03T13:06:38Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> CGI effects if I remember correctly.

It’s amazing how they used CGI in the Indiana Jones films to make a dwarf look like he was really a six-footer.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/37 "2010-08-03T15:18:30Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> > [@runner pat](#):
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> > CGI effects if I remember correctly.
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> It’s amazing how they used CGI in the Indiana Jones films to make a dwarf look like he was really a six-footer.

Are you referring to Ford? How tall is he? (Wikipedia and IMDB don’t mention his height.)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/38 "2010-08-03T15:18:40Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> It’s amazing how they used CGI in the Indiana Jones films to make a dwarf look like he was really a six-footer.

They just used the technology developed for Tom Cruise movies.

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/39 "2010-08-03T15:45:54Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > [@Hampshire](#):
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> > If we’re going back to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark I was more suprised to find out “Throw me the idol, I throw you the whip” Sapito later became Spiderman 2’s Doc Ock.
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> …
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> I can’t breathe.

And Captain Picard is played by Professor Xavier!

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/40 "2010-08-03T16:31:33Z")

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And thus we have a Frenchman with a British accent as well as a Connecticut Schoolmaster with a British accent… what’s next? Will Jean-Luc (Geez! Would it have been so hard to just make him a Brit in Star Trek?) play Colonel Klink with a British accent?

AHA! I’ve got it-- when he was offered the Picard role, he had a secret acting seminar with Sean Connery: “Ah’ve played Irish, Amurican, hell, ah played a _Spaniard_ with this Scots accent in _Highlander_! **An ah steel go’ PAID, laddie!** ”

SO, ween they tell yuh to doo the french accent, yuh seh wha ah deed: **"Yoor looky ah’m IN this piece o’ SHITE et all!**"

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