# Sallah is Gimli?!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 1, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792 "2010-08-01T14:44:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThirdOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@ThirdOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThirdOne)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/41 "2010-08-03T23:57:58Z")

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There actually were some scenes where “little people” (my apologies if this is the wrong term), were used in LoTR. Not many, and generally for distance shots. One, though that was blatantly obvious to me, is when Bilbo is about to board the last ship. When he has his back to camera, that’s a little person.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/42 "2010-08-04T00:04:28Z")

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> [@ThirdOne](#):
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> There actually were some scenes where “little people” (my apologies if this is the wrong term), were used in LoTR. Not many, and generally for distance shots. One, though that was blatantly obvious to me, is when Bilbo is about to board the last ship. When he has his back to camera, that’s a little person.

In the scene near the beginning where Frodo jumps into Gandalf’s cart, it’s a child that Ian McKellen catches. There’s a fair bit about the doubles on the dvd extras, but that’s the only one I remember right now.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/43 "2010-08-04T00:30:20Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> … Rhys-Davies was also the narrator in Quest for Glory IV, which was pleasant surprise at the time. And the Professor in “Sliders.”

> [@panamajack](#):
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> And “Macbeth” in [Gargoyles](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108783/fullcredits#cast)

[Rodrigues!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Dgun_%28TV_miniseries%29)

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/44 "2010-08-04T00:35:54Z")

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He’s going to reprise the scene where Strider throws him into the crowd of Orcs.

That’s right, he’s going to star in the [Gimli Glider](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider).

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/45 "2010-08-04T01:49:14Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Ian McKellan’s not a real wizard either, sorry to break it to you!  
> 😃

Have you seen this [wee clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqU5-2o-9cM&feature=related) from Extras?

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/46 "2010-08-04T02:54:51Z")

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How long did it take to carve the Gates of Argonath and is it still there in Australia?

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/47 "2010-08-04T06:51:11Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> How long did it take to carve the Gates of Argonath and is it still there in Australia?

Whoa, I didn’t know that the producers took the time and expense to ship those massive Gates all the way from New Zealand to Australia… 😛

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/48 "2010-08-04T13:45:04Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> [Sallah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sallahcrusade.JPG) is Gimli?! Excuse me while I have a heart attack. A 6’1 tall actor played Gimli?! Excuse me while I have another heart attack.
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> Were you all aware of this? I can’t have been the only one!

Well… sorta. I knew the actor that played Gimli was 6’ 1" but I never knew it was Sallah!

> [@Hampshire](#):
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> If we’re going back to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark I was more suprised to find out “Throw me the idol, I throw you the whip” Sapito later became Spiderman 2’s Doc Ock.

_head asplodes_

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**Author:** ![palindromemordnilap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@palindromemordnilap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palindromemordnilap)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/49 "2010-08-04T14:19:26Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> > [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> And Captain Picard is played by Professor Xavier!

I thought Prof X was Gurney Halleck.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/50 "2010-08-04T15:57:42Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> [Rodrigues!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Dgun_%28TV_miniseries%29)

That’s where I first noticed him.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/51 "2010-08-04T16:34:32Z")

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> [@JoseB](#):
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> > [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> > How long did it take to carve the Gates of Argonath and is it still there in Australia?
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> Whoa, I didn’t know that the producers took the time and expense to ship those massive Gates all the way from New Zealand to Australia… 😛

Touche :smack:

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/52 "2010-08-04T21:15:07Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Holy crap, Elrond is Agent Smith?!

And the voice of Rex the lead sheepdog from the movie _Babe_!

After watching the Matrix, it was hard to go back to Babe and hear the sheepdog talk without thinking “sheep - are like a virus - that must be eliminated…”

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/53 "2010-08-04T21:17:51Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> > [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> > Holy crap, Elrond is Agent Smith?!
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> And the voice of Rex the lead sheepdog from the movie _Babe_!
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> After watching the Matrix, it was hard to go back to Babe and hear the sheepdog talk without thinking “sheep - are like a virus - that must be eliminated…”

I didn’t know this!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/54 "2010-08-04T21:19:45Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > [@WordMan](#):
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> > And the voice of Rex the lead sheepdog from the movie _Babe_!
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> > After watching the Matrix, it was hard to go back to Babe and hear the sheepdog talk without thinking “sheep - are like a virus - that must be eliminated…”
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> I didn’t know this!

You need to rent _Priscilla, Queen of the Desert_ immediately. Of the 3 cross-dressing cabaret show performers making their way across the Australian desert, one is Agent Smith/Elrond; another is General Zod.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/55 "2010-08-04T21:30:08Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> You need to rent _Priscilla, Queen of the Desert_ immediately. Of the 3 cross-dressing cabaret show performers making their way across the Australian desert, one is Agent Smith/Elrond; another is General Zod.

Not a Superman fan, sorry. 😛 I guess seeing Elrond in drag might be worth the laugh, though.

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**Author:** ![kim\_jung\_il](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@kim\_jung\_il](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kim_jung_il)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/56 "2010-08-05T03:18:19Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> And thus we have a Frenchman with a British accent as well as a Connecticut Schoolmaster with a British accent… what’s next? Will Jean-Luc (Geez! Would it have been so hard to just make him a Brit in Star Trek?) play Colonel Klink with a British accent?
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> AHA! I’ve got it-- when he was offered the Picard role, he had a secret acting seminar with Sean Connery: “Ah’ve played Irish, Amurican, hell, ah played a _Spaniard_ with this Scots accent in _Highlander_! **An ah steel go’ PAID, laddie!** ”
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> SO, ween they tell yuh to doo the french accent, yuh seh wha ah deed: **"Yoor looky ah’m IN this piece o’ SHITE et all!**"

As a scotsman, can I just point out that the accent you are writing with is fucking atrocious.

Thank you.:smack:

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/57 "2010-08-05T03:20:04Z")

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Kim Jung Il is Scottish?

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/58 "2010-08-05T10:33:41Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> > [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> You need to rent _Priscilla, Queen of the Desert_ immediately. Of the 3 cross-dressing cabaret show performers making their way across the Australian desert, one is Agent Smith/Elrond; another is General Zod.

And the third one has a bit of a memory problem.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/59 "2010-08-05T13:48:43Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Kim Jung Il is Scottish?

Are YOU gonna tell him he’s not?

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallah-is-gimli/548792/60 "2010-08-05T14:30:45Z")

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> [@palindromemordnilap](#):
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> I thought Prof X was Gurney Halleck.

No, no, Gurney is King Leodegrance!

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