# SallyStar-when come back, bring coherance

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 6, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913 "2004-06-06T04:49:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/161 "2004-06-06T19:57:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by gobear_  
> Not if I’m there. Still the prettiest, (although I do feel a pout coming on.)

Well, dear heart, you are _especially_ pretty when you pout, and I would love to give you the rhinestone tiarra (you’d have to grow some hair first, no? Or it wouldn’t stay on) and bouquet of roses, but alas and alack, I cannot. Our dear Miss Star has already declared herself the winner, and since she apparently knows everything, she must be right; I mean, you don’t think they go around handing out GEDs and Peer Reviews and stuff to just anyone, do you?

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**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/162 "2004-06-06T20:02:11Z")

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> [@Satyagrahi](#):
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> It’s a game, folks. Get it? SS is way out in front on points and we’all need to catch up to that hamel in a sammock…small time! LOL!
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> :wally

You keeping score? How far out in front am I? This is easy, because I **speak** Engrish … IMHO LMAO

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**Author:** ![Chimpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@Chimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimpy)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/163 "2004-06-06T20:08:15Z")

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Hey I’ve got a good idea! Why don’t we all take everything that is said in a literal sense!

So would it be SallyStar or Peregrine?

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/164 "2004-06-06T20:10:24Z")

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Oh, honey… after reading some of your other posts in other threads, I have to say that you don’t _seem_ to be all that mentally deficient. In this thread, you’re not making much sense, leaving me to scratch my head and go “huh?” alot, though.  
Maybe if you come back in about 10 years when you’re a little more emotionally mature and have acquired better communication skills with which to express your ideas, you’ll be a better fit.

Okay? All right, then, we’ll see you in 2014.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/165 "2004-06-06T20:11:39Z")

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> [@Hunter Hawk](#):
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> Y’know, reading this thread is like reviewing a transcript of a conversation with Eliza.

I’ve seen this reference before. To what does it refer?

Anyone else thinking that her “GED” comes from one of those “learn from home!” dealies that you see on late night cable? You know, the ones with Sally Struthers (who always sounds like she’s about to burst into tears)

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**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/166 "2004-06-06T20:16:43Z")

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> [@BigDaiv](#):
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> Hey I’ve got a good idea! Why don’t we all take everything that is said in a literal sense!
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> So would it be SallyStar or Peregrine?

Wow, I’ll bet that would get you guys really riled up!

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/167 "2004-06-06T20:16:45Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Anyone else thinking that her “GED” comes from one of those “learn from home!” dealies that you see on late night cable? You know, the ones with Sally Struthers (who always sounds like she’s about to burst into tears)

[quavering]Right now, there are children going hungry in the home of this GED correspondence course owner. Only you can help.[/quavering]

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**Author:** ![Satyagrahi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Satyagrahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satyagrahi)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/168 "2004-06-06T20:22:47Z")

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Eliza was (probably still is, in some archive somewhere) a computer program that was supposed to carry on one-half of a conversation by detecting key words in your input and putting together questions that (almost) made sense. For a short length of conversation, it sometimes worked very well–as a therapist might: asking you about things you wanted to talk about–but eventually it came to repetition or some non-sequitur that left you gasping.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/169 "2004-06-06T20:24:46Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I’ve seen this reference before. To what does it refer?
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> Anyone else thinking that her “GED” comes from one of those “learn from home!” dealies that you see on late night cable? You know, the ones with Sally Struthers (who always sounds like she’s about to burst into tears)

‘Talk to Eliza’ was an early AI based computer program that pretended to be a pshrink. It would start a conversation, and spit back questions to you that were repackages of your previous input. Pretty aggravating to those who couldn’t figure out what was happening,

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**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/170 "2004-06-06T20:26:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> What happens if I trash a POTUS?

An angel gets their wings of course.

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**Author:** ![Satyagrahi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Satyagrahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satyagrahi)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/171 "2004-06-06T20:34:02Z")

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**Guin** , here you are: [Eliza](http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza/eliza.html). Have fun. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chimpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@Chimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimpy)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/172 "2004-06-06T20:35:09Z")

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> [@SallyStar](#):
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> Wow, I’ll bet that would get you guys really riled up!

Or just make us pity you… 's all good.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/173 "2004-06-06T20:36:59Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> Christ, this thread is like watching Daffy Duck try to use nunchuks for the first time ever against an army of Bugs Bunnies.

Now, _that_ is a classic line! 😃 May I use it for a sig if I ever get tired of **'punha’s** line?

Note to **Starving Artist** – if this person were playing her mind games with a political twist in the other direction, would you be as quick to offer her support? When I did my intervention with you, it was because I saw a sincere person (albeit misguided, IMO 😉 ) who didn’t intend to make the initial impression of an under-bridge dweller. Our current Pittee, however, seems to me quite a different kettle of squid. 😉

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/174 "2004-06-06T20:37:48Z")

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> [@SallyStar](#):
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> Just don’t trash a President of the US … I’m waiting …

I’d like to point your attention to [this](http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1730), a quote from one of our better presidents.

One of the things I appreciate about this country is that it is (so far, at least), still possible to publicly disagree with the government without getting thrown into prison.

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**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/175 "2004-06-06T20:44:27Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I’d like to point your attention to [this](http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1730), a quote from one of our better presidents.
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> One of the things I appreciate about this country is that it is (so far, at least), still possible to publicly disagree with the government without getting thrown into prison.

> [@Theodore Roosevelt](#):
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> “To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

True of a President in office, but not one who just died.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/176 "2004-06-06T20:50:06Z")

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> [@SallyStar](#):
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> True of a President in office, but not one who just died.

Why not? Why should his having died (even if it was just last night) mean that we can’t say we thought he sucked as a president? “Don’t speak ill of the dead” is a really _stupid_ attitude.

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**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/177 "2004-06-06T20:58:50Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Why not? Why should his having died (even if it was just last night) mean that we can’t say we thought he sucked as a president? “Don’t speak ill of the dead” is a really _stupid_ attitude.

I’ll just assume that you were raised by a pack of hyenas and don’t know any better.

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**Author:** ![Chimpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@Chimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimpy)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/178 "2004-06-06T21:00:57Z")

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And what praytell are we to assume of you?

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/179 "2004-06-06T21:07:55Z")

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Y’know, this whole Reagan _mishegoss_ reminds me of Kim Il-sung’s death in 1994, while I was living in South Korea. I had been on an intercity bus from Kyongju to Seoul at the time, and when I got off at the Kangnam terminal, I saw that everyone in the building was watching TV, which showed masses of North Koreans in Pyongyang screaming, “ABOJI! DDONAJI MASHIPSHIO!” (Father, don’t leave us.) Kim was lauded by the North Koreans as the Great Leader, the North Star who guided the People’s Revolution, and who had been the greatest genius the world had ever known, a scientist, scholar, patriot and glorious founder of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

**SallyStar** , **Sam Stone** , and **Grienspace** are giving me that same kind of vibe. And why is it that two of the most ardent defenders of Reagan’s legacy aren’t even Americans? Don’t they have Stockwell Day to slobber over?

I grow tired of hearing rightwing politics being defended by Canucks who don’t have to live with the consequences of the “Reagan Revolution.”

At least **SallyStar** is a homegrown moron.

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**Author:** ![SallyStar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SallyStar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SallyStar)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sallystar-when-come-back-bring-coherance/248913/180 "2004-06-06T21:11:20Z")

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> [@BigDaiv](#):
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> And what praytell are we to assume of you?

Eating **your** lunch? 😃

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