# Salman Rushdie attacked onstage - Breaking news {2022-08-12} **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [August 12, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564 "2022-08-12T15:49:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/41 "2022-08-14T00:05:25Z")
NYT reports he was stabbed approximately 10 times. > **[Rushdie Stabbed Roughly 10 Times in Premeditated Attack, Prosecutors Say](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/13/nyregion/rushdie-video-stabbed-ny.html)** > > The writer, who was gravely wounded and had been put on a ventilator after surgery, is now talking in the hospital, according to his agent. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/42 "2022-08-14T00:06:22Z")
> [@](#): > > “The Satanic Verses” author Salman Rushdie was taken off a ventilator and able to talk Saturday, a day after he was stabbed as he prepared to give a lecture in upstate New York. > > Rushdie remained hospitalized with serious injuries, but fellow author Aatish Taseer tweeted in the evening that he was “off the ventilator and talking (and joking).” Rushdie’s agent, Andrew Wylie, confirmed that information without offering further details. > **[Agent: Rushdie off ventilator and talking, day after attack](https://apnews.com/article/salman-rushdie-on-ventilator-after-new-york-stabbing-5ea54212d71b95569ed85df7b0fb5fea)** > > Author Salman Rushdie has been taken off a ventilator and is able to talk, a day after being stabbed as he prepared to give a lecture. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/43 "2022-08-14T00:20:10Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > the biggest middle finger possible toward the anti-intellectual brutes who sought to extinguish him before his time. This. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/44 "2022-08-14T00:30:07Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > The [Chautauqua] institution’s leadership had rejected recommendations for basic security measures, including bag checks and metal detectors, fearing that would create a divide between speakers and the audience, according to two sources who spoke with CNN. The leadership also feared that it would change the culture at the institution, the sources said. > > Someone made a very, very bad judgment call. Yes, and no doubt the lawsuit by Rusdie (or his medical insurance carrier) against the Institute might cause them to make better judgement calls in the future. But alas – judging from this report, they are more likely to decide instead to avoid having any ‘controversial’ speakers at all in the future. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/45 "2022-08-14T01:47:29Z")
I’m assuming that Rushdie would have known ahead of time what the security arrangements were or weren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/46 "2022-08-14T02:05:04Z")
> [@paulmarkj](#): > > He apologised but later said he regretted apologising. The people who have apologized for the latest apology have been sacked. We’re sorry. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/47 "2022-08-14T02:08:29Z")
Rushdie felt pretty trapped by British security and advocated for less. From reading _Joseph Anton,_ I think he was aware of the risks lower security poses. He gets to make that choice on his own behalf. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/48 "2022-08-14T11:36:58Z")
> [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](#): > > Yes, and no doubt the lawsuit by Rusdie (or his medical insurance carrier) against the Institute might cause them to make better judgement calls in the future. It would be in character for Rushdie to not progress such a lawsuit, certainly if he was aware of the arrangements and agreed with them. In other depressing, ironic and completely predictable news, JK Rowling sends her best wishes to Salman (they were co-signatories of the [“Harpers Letter”](https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/) ) and she gets a death threat in return telling her that she’s next. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/49 "2022-08-14T16:31:02Z")
A number of translators and publishers of _The Satanic Verses_ have been attacked and/or killed over the years. The death sentence in the fatwa applied to more than just Rushdie. “Fatwa” just refers to a ruling on Islamic law. For example, there was a fatwa issued last century which said that Muslims were allowed to drink Coke or Pepsi. So not synonymous with “license to kill”. Also, since there a multiple Muslim sects a fatwa is not necessarily binding outside of your sect. The Shia have a fatwa declaring the Shiite to be heretics (or maybe the other way around, or maybe reciprocal); clearly a Shiite would not obey that fatwa. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/50 "2022-08-14T18:59:12Z")
Shia and Shiite refer to the same group. I think you meant Sunni and Shia. Not sure who has the fatwa calling the other heretics. I’ve been under the impression that of late the Shia leaders have been more inclined to calls for violence but I could be 100% wrong on that. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/51 "2022-08-14T21:10:58Z")
Yes, brain lock. Sunni and Shia. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/52 "2022-08-15T00:28:08Z")
Moderating: > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > it is relevant as a study in how some outwardly respectable and liberal people can tie themselves in cringing, cowardly knots and forget what they are supposed to stand for. No politics in breaking news threads. ---
**Author:** ![sinda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@sinda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinda)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/53 "2022-08-15T11:58:19Z")
Makes you wonder which century we’re living in! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/54 "2022-08-15T12:40:59Z")
> [@sinda](#): > > Makes you wonder which century we’re living in! - More like which century _they’re_ living in. ---
**Author:** ![sinda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@sinda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinda)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/55 "2022-08-15T13:18:54Z")
Yes, if only we weren’t unfortunately sharing the same one 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/56 "2022-08-16T13:19:16Z")
> [@Orville\_mogul](#): > > If you have a bit more time, I suggest you read his memoir about the fatwa period. It’s called Joseph Anton (his code name while in hiding) and is as good as his fiction. > > Rushdie is truly gifted and an artist with the English language. Agreed on all counts - I thought _Joseph Anton_ was a terrific book. I admired the British government for guarding him for years, and at considerable expense, but Rushdie makes clear that protection was somewhat begrudging and not always helpful. Also, truth be told, at times in the book he comes off as a bit of a pompous jerk. I bought and read _The Satanic Verses_ when it first came out, as my FU to the theocrats who would try to silence anyone. May Rushdie make as swift and complete a recovery as possible, and may his assailant be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/57 "2022-08-16T13:22:26Z")
This may also be of interest: > **[Rushdie attack shows the enduring impact of fatwas](https://www.aol.com/explainer-rushdie-attack-shows-enduring-074210681-115506777.html)** > > The attempt on Rushdie's life in New York on Friday is not an isolated incident. Novelists, academics and journalists -- particularly in the Middle East -- who dared criticise or question Islamic beliefs have faced similar threats or condemnation... ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/58 "2022-08-16T13:38:07Z")
I had the impression Iran wasn’t actively pursuing the fatwa. They didn’t use their Intelligence service to locate him and send agents. The fatwa was more of a terror tactic. Someday some random follower of Islam will strike. It took quite awhile. But it hampered his life for all these years. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/59 "2022-08-16T22:40:35Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Someday some random follower of Islam will strike. We called it stochastic terrorism when Trump did it. I see no reason that doesn’t also apply here. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564/60 "2022-08-18T20:59:40Z")
And now in court: > **[Salman Rushdie attack suspect pleads not guilty to attempted murder, assault](https://www.aol.com/news/salman-rushdie-attack-suspect-appear-130944506-175211335.html)** > > MAYVILLE, N.Y. (Reuters) -A man accused of stabbing novelist Salman Rushdie last week in western New York pleaded not guilty to second-degree attempted murder and assault charges on Thursday during an arraignment hearing and was remanded without... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salman-rushdie-attacked-onstage-breaking-news-2022-08-12/969564.md?page=4)