# Salvation army... Five years down the drain

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 11, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501 "2016-08-11T23:10:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/61 "2016-08-13T21:11:48Z")

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shouldn’t have joined the militant wing.

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**Author:** ![Lucky\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Lucky\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_Mike)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/62 "2016-08-14T00:50:18Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Yes, because we all write things in the perfect way when we’re angry.
> 
> They didn’t tell him why they did it before they did it. He found out later. It’s not hard to understand.
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> Frank came in and called the guy a liar, because he apparently believes in the “just world fallacy.” He deliberately antagonized him. Then, rather than apologize, he gave an “I told you so.” Frank is a creep, and it’s why I have him on ignore.
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> And would you ever tell someoen who was fired that they should just buck up and go tomorrow to McDonald’s? And what makes you think McDonald’s doesn’t have a waiting list for hires, and would have a full time position open?

Ok. Point taken.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/63 "2016-08-14T01:41:25Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Wait now, are you just an employee of the second hand store? Or are you a member of the actual Salvation Army? Because if it’s the latter there are a lot of morality clauses that would seem to apply, and could be to blame, I think.
> 
> Which is it?

I worked at the Store but not For the store. The manager had no say in my daily activities. My direct supervisor was the head of marketing and public relations in this region. I spoke with him daily but saw him face to face only a few times in five years.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/64 "2016-08-14T01:53:55Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> I worked at the Store but not For the store. The manager had no say in my daily activities. My direct supervisor was the head of marketing and public relations in this region. I spoke with him daily but saw him face to face only a few times in five years.

Big Salvation.

Boooooooooo!

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/65 "2016-08-14T04:59:05Z")

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Salvo Stores are ubiquitous in Australia, with coverage across suburbia and most decent sized regional towns. Where once they were staffed by volunteers, the brand has taken off you might say, and now paid-employees are behind the counters and in the sorting sections. It’s my understanding they have professional valuers to go through donated items to sort the trash (that they sell in their stores) from the treasures (that are sent to auction houses and other third party buyers).

The Salvos make BIG BUCKS from their merchandising. I have no clue as to their wage-rates, but would expect they pay their floor-staff a relative pittance, and their managers a more reasonable rate. Of course, their valuers would attract a decent remuneration as well.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/66 "2016-08-14T06:22:51Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/67 "2016-08-14T06:37:58Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Salvo Stores are ubiquitous in Australia, with coverage across suburbia and most decent sized regional towns. Where once they were staffed by volunteers, the brand has taken off you might say, and now paid-employees are behind the counters and in the sorting sections. It’s my understanding they have professional valuers to go through donated items to sort the trash (that they sell in their stores) from the treasures (that are sent to auction houses and other third party buyers).
> 
> The Salvos make BIG BUCKS from their merchandising. I have no clue as to their wage-rates, but would expect they pay their floor-staff a relative pittance, and their managers a more reasonable rate. Of course, their valuers would attract a decent remuneration as well.

I was indeed in charge of accepting or rejecting “donations”.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/68 "2016-08-14T06:45:18Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> I was indeed in charge of accepting or rejecting “donations”.

Regardless of your role, you have my sympathies mate. Being chucked from a job is one thing, being chucked when you don’t really understand WHY is another kettle of fish.

Is it worth submitting an appeal to the higher ups? You’ve been in your job for 5 yrs now so it’s not like you’re an incompetent twit. Maybe??

Whatever the case, good luck. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/69 "2016-08-14T06:50:59Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> You were not escorted off the property and then terminated without having _some_ idea of what it was all about. Agree with the action or disagree, that just doesn’t happen. You know what it was about.
> 
> That said, my experience is that I used to get some really horrible meals from them when I was bumming around back in the 70s. I mean horrible meals–jail quality meals.

On the contrary. In “Right to Work” States, this is standard practice.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/70 "2016-08-14T06:57:06Z")

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Give it a break, Frank. That IS what happened. I still don’t have a solid answer as to why I was terminated.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/71 "2016-08-14T13:02:39Z")

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Check your mortgage–it may have insurance built-in.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/72 "2016-08-14T18:29:12Z")

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Claude Leaves

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/73 "2016-08-15T03:46:21Z")

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Getting fired wasn’t the worst part - this little dog kept running up behind him and barking.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/74 "2016-08-15T04:13:05Z")

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Next time I have a crisis I’ll be sure to post it in MPSIMS. Thanks to any and all who responded in kind.

Mods, Please remove this thread.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/75 "2016-08-15T09:55:09Z")

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_poof_

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/76 "2016-08-15T11:05:33Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> Give it a break, Frank. That IS what happened. I still don’t have a solid answer as to why I was terminated.

**Frank** wasn’t quoting himself.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/77 "2016-08-15T11:06:52Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> Next time I have a crisis I’ll be sure to post it in MPSIMS.

Unlike you, every one of my posts in this thread would have been perfectly appropriate in MPSIMS.

Look, I just don’t think we’re getting the whole story from you. I don’t think we’re getting even a fraction of the story.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/78 "2016-08-15T11:13:49Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> _poof_

Alaka-hocus! Pocus-cadabra!

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/79 "2016-08-15T13:00:57Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Claude Leaves

and remains perplexed

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/salvation-army-five-years-down-the-drain/762501/80 "2016-08-16T00:02:17Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Claude Leaves

But does he Eat and Shoot?

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