# Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633 "2020-10-10T13:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/383 "2020-10-25T00:51:16Z")
Would you hate the birds for singing? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/384 "2020-10-25T00:54:11Z")
Frankly, I’m a little surprised that **Sam** is pulling an **octopus** act. I honestly thought he was better than that, ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/385 "2020-10-25T01:15:38Z")
Another example of the maxim “Everything Trump touches turns to shit.” ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/386 "2020-10-25T01:40:52Z")
What is ‘an octopus’? And how does one pull it? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/387 "2020-10-25T01:48:51Z")
As a reminder: After four years of bagging on Trump on this board, I saw a tweet by him that looked like it might be true - not because Trump doesn’t lie, but because in this case it seemed too stupid to lie about, even for him. And if true, it had a ton of implications. I thought it would be an interesting subject for discussion, so opened a thread where I explained why I thought it was an interesting subject to discuss, IF TRUE. For that, I was attacked to the point where the mods had to shut the thread down, then the party was taken to the pit, where I continue to be attacked, mocked, given the, ‘oh, I thought you were better’ treatment, yada yada. You all have gone off the deep end. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/388 "2020-10-25T01:55:09Z")
Oh, poor poor pitiful you. If you don’t want to be mocked, _stop posting stupid shit._ You whine about people mocking you, and then you post stuff that deserves to be mocked. Playing the sad victim card in the Pit absolutely deserves to be mocked. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/389 "2020-10-25T02:00:05Z")
Here Sam. Maybe this will make you feel better. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/rAlTOfl9F2w/maxresdefault.jpg "Worlds Smallest Violin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w) ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/390 "2020-10-25T02:08:39Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > As a reminder: After four years of bagging on Trump on this board, I saw a tweet by him that looked like it might be true - not because Trump doesn’t lie, but because in this case it seemed too stupid to lie about, even for him. And if true, it had a ton of implications. It’s not the one Tweet you fucking nit wit. The ton of implications of that Tweet were obvious bullshit. You should have recognized them as obvious bullshit and realized the Tweet was false, but you did not because of your tragic gullibility. This thread is still going, not in small part, due to your continuing demonstration of you tragic gullibility in other threads e.g. Hunter Biden’s laptop thread. You are continuing to ‘balance’ facts with clear and obvious bullshit. It would be sad if you weren’t such a smarmy douche. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/391 "2020-10-25T02:13:42Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I saw a tweet by him that looked like it might be true - not because Trump doesn’t lie, but because in this case it seemed too stupid to lie about, even for him. Honestly, anyone who thinks there is something too stupid for Trump to lie about simply hasn’t been paying attention for the last four years. From the very first day of his administration, he lied about the size of the crowd at his inauguration even though it could easily be checked. It is mind-boggling that anyone with a brain bigger than an opossum’s could make such an absurd statement. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/392 "2020-10-25T02:20:35Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > As a reminder: After four years of bagging on Trump on this board, I saw a tweet by him that looked like it might be true - not because Trump doesn’t lie, but because in this case it seemed too stupid to lie about, even for him. Well, that was a fundamentally stupid assumption on your part, wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/393 "2020-10-25T02:36:09Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > pulling an **octopus** act Be it hereby named. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/394 "2020-10-25T02:44:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > given the, ‘oh, I thought you were better’ treatment, But shouldn’t that give you pause? I don’t have a dog in this particular fight. I didn’t participate in the original thread, nor have I in this one up to now. I don’t participate in GD or political threads much, and I don’t recall having been critical of you before. I’ve had an impression of you as being a reasonabley sensible conservative. Now here I see you trying to defend posting stupid shit, and being a big crybaby when called on it. I’m not one of your enemies, but when I see someone just embarrassing themselves I had to say something. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/395 "2020-10-25T02:53:52Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I thought it would be an interesting subject for discussion, so opened a thread where I explained why I thought it was an interesting subject to discuss, IF TRUE. Oh hey, I just read that Trump eats deep-fried human fetuses. Now, I don’t know if it’s true that Trump eats deep-fried human fetuses, but it MIGHT be true and seems too dumb to lie about, and wouldn’t that be an interesting subject to discuss IF TRUE? It would have a ton of implications if Trump did in fact eat deep-fried human fetuses. And if I get mocked for bringing this up, it’s just evidence that you all have gone off the deep end, and this is just an echo chamber. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/396 "2020-10-25T03:15:44Z")
Deep fried. C’mon now, that’s not fair. I’d probably eat that. Boiled fetuses, however, only a Republican would get into that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/397 "2020-10-25T03:27:34Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I’ve got a different theory in case of Sam\_Stone. I doubt very much he is fooled in the slightest by Trump&Co. But the conservative side has been gutted for years by unscrupulous right wing lunacy, culminating (I hope) with Trump. The left meanwhile, has become more progressive to the point where most traditional conservatives can’t find it tolerable. Biden is an exception as a centrist but he does not represent the progressive Democrats and conservatives know it. Extreme right wing politics of the past 20 years have ruined any chance for bi-partisanship. Compromise to GOP politicians now just looks like capitulation and gets them the RINO label by their supporters and a primary challenge from the lunatic fringe right. So they have no safe high ground to which to run. No DMZ. Doubling down on the anti-left agenda is the only identity they can safely put forward, no matter how self-destructive it is in the long run. That is why Sam\_Stone appears to support absurd arguments that don’t even resemble reality. He can’t bring himself to abandon the right, regardless of how little it resembles legitimate conservative values. In other words, he’s taken the position of _‘better wrong than blue, fuck you very much’_. This is the hill he and others like him have decided to die on. But _why_? It’s not like _he’s_ going to be primaried… ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/398 "2020-10-25T03:36:02Z")
Looking back on a lot of Sam’s posts over the last couple of years, there is SOME truth to his claim that he has “bagged on Trump”, if in a very kid-gloved kind of way. The problem is, he absolutely, unhesitatingly carries ALL THE WATER for the Republican Party, which also means he basically soft-pedals a pro-Trump position, then follows it up with “but Trump sure sucks, amirite?” It’s possible to be a conservative and not full of shit, Sam. I’m sorry to say that the Republicans left that position _en masse_ in the last four years. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/399 "2020-10-25T03:38:40Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I was pitying poor Sam for a while because of how completely he has been let down by someone in whom he had placed his hopes. But now he’s actually used “hive mind.” So it’s back to ridicule instead. _ **AND** _ now he owes a royalty to **ocotpus**. This keeps getting worse and worse for him. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/400 "2020-10-25T07:38:03Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Boiled fetuses, however, only a Republican would get into that. Well-done, with ketchup. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/401 "2020-10-25T14:31:44Z")
Should rename himself to **Sam\_Squid**. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/402 "2020-10-25T14:44:30Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Deep fried. C’mon now, that’s not fair. I’d probably eat that. TGI Friday’s sucks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633.md?page=21)