# Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633 "2020-10-10T13:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![JBlackstone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jblackstone/32/5256_2.png) [@JBlackstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBlackstone)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/463 "2020-10-27T21:09:24Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > How have you managed to bypass or suppress all the messages society has been sending you, most of which white people don’t even detect, about the inferiority of black people and the superiority of white people? That’s like saying that because you’ve grown up in a mainly Christian society then you have to be a Christian even if you don’t think you are. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/464 "2020-10-27T21:11:40Z")
I don’t get your point. Most people born into mainly Christian societies actually end up Christian, so maybe your point is that many or most people born into a racially biased society end up racially biased themselves – if so, then I’d agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![JBlackstone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jblackstone/32/5256_2.png) [@JBlackstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBlackstone)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/465 "2020-10-27T21:17:46Z")
Sam says he’s not a racist and you asked him how he avoided racist messages and the way you said it made it sound like you were saying he was racist even if he didn’t know it. What I’m saying is that there are lots of christian messages in our society but that doesn’t mean youll necessarily be a christian. Are you a christian? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/466 "2020-10-27T21:18:30Z")
You may not be a Christian, but you probably take part in Christmas sales. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/467 "2020-10-27T21:18:40Z")
> [@JBlackstone](#): > > Sam says he’s not a racist and you asked him how he avoided racist messages and the way you said it made it sound like you were saying he was racist even if he didn’t know it. I was saying he might be influenced by the racism and bias in society, and asked him what he’s doing to make sure that he isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![JBlackstone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jblackstone/32/5256_2.png) [@JBlackstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBlackstone)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/468 "2020-10-27T21:20:56Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I was saying he might be influenced by the racism and bias in society, and asked him what he’s doing to make sure that he isn’t Influenced in a racist way? Also are you a christian? If you don’t feel comfortable answering that’s ok ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/469 "2020-10-27T21:21:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I was saying he might be influenced by the racism and bias in society, and asked him what he’s doing to make sure that he isn’t. You were asking him if he could avoid messages he can’t even detect, which would be difficult to do anything to avoid if you can’t detect them. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/470 "2020-10-27T21:22:58Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > You were asking him if he could avoid messages he can’t even detect, No I wasn’t. Read it again. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/471 "2020-10-27T21:29:07Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > You may not be a Christian, but you probably take part in Christmas sales. There is still a lot of “Christ” in Christmas … 😀 [![](https://i.imgur.com/HW0KQDg.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/HW0KQDg.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/472 "2020-10-27T21:47:19Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No I wasn’t. Read it again. I did, several times, and do not want to go through this again. It already felt like gaslighting when I read it the third time. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/473 "2020-10-27T21:54:48Z")
Okay, I’ll rephrase: I was saying he might be influenced by the racism and bias in society, which can be difficult for white people to detect, and asked him what he’s doing to make sure that he isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/474 "2020-10-27T21:57:17Z")
The issue is that I didn’t see you asking him rather than assuming, although I could have missed something, but I do think the rephrasing is pretty agreeable. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/475 "2020-10-27T22:04:47Z")
> [@JBlackstone](#): > > That’s like saying that because you’ve grown up in a mainly Christian society then you have to be a Christian even if you don’t think you are. A friend of mine, upon finding out that I’m an atheist, said that I’m not _really_ an atheist because I still observe Christian concepts- like visiting family for Christmas, saying “Oh God”, that sort of thing. My response was, “Happy Thor’s Day!” She didn’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/476 "2020-10-27T22:06:41Z")
Here’s the post again, which was explicitly a question: “How have you managed to bypass or suppress all the messages society has been sending you, most of which white people don’t even detect, about the inferiority of black people and the superiority of white people?” ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/477 "2020-10-27T22:42:24Z")
> [@Trump Crowds vs Biden Crowds](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/1): > > I’m not making any claims about the relative popularity of the two: I’m just trying to understand what’s going on. Is the Biden team intentionally holding ‘fake’ rallies and not notifying the public for COVID reasons? Is there advance team incompetent and aren’t getting the word out? More bullshit peddling. A willingness to believe any old goofy nonsense about Biden rather than seeing the obvious truth that Biden cares about his supporters while Trump does not. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/478 "2020-10-27T22:50:41Z")
> [@Trump Crowds vs Biden Crowds](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/1): > > > [@Trump Crowds vs Biden Crowds](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/1): > > > > Is the Biden team intentionally holding ‘fake’ rallies and not notifying the public for COVID reasons? Is there advance team incompetent and aren’t getting the word out? I can’t bring myself to search out which right wing lunatic was first to suggest this so that Sam could JAQ off with it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/479 "2020-10-27T22:53:35Z")
Eight letters, starts with V… ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/480 "2020-10-28T01:42:52Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I never said the Russians didn’t interfere in the electiom. That has been established beyond doubt. They funded protests, took out ads on facebook and elsewhere, fed garbage into the information stream through social media, and all the rest. They also seem to have done it by feeding disinformatiin through the Steele Dossier, since the contents of the dossier came from a Russian with connections to the government. They also may be guilty of hacking Cljnton’s e-mails. For the record here’s the breakdown of the page counts from volume one of the Mueller for various aspects of Russian interference in the 2016 election. 1. Social media ~20 pages 2. Hacking and leaking ~30 pages 3. Collusion ~100 pages Sam acknowledges that 1 happened, has his doubts about 2, and is absolutely certain that 3 didn’t occur. Fucking. Bonkers. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/481 "2020-10-28T05:35:34Z")
> [@JBlackstone](#): > > That’s like saying that because you’ve grown up in a mainly Christian society then you have to be a Christian even if you don’t think you are. No, it’s saying if you grow up in a mostly Christian society, you’re going to have absorbed mostly Christian ideas of morality and behaviour, unless you e.g. make a _conscious_ effort to only follow Buddhist precepts. And by the way, who the fuck _are_ you, “newbie”-who-is-suddenly-so-active-in-multiple-contentious-threads? ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/482 "2020-10-28T06:17:58Z")
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