# Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633 "2020-10-10T13:47:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/583 "2020-12-06T16:48:36Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve noticed an escalation in pedantry here that surpasses even the usual SDMB levels.

Trump.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/584 "2020-12-06T16:56:23Z")

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[El Niño](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS920US927&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=trump+baby+balloon+image&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwic6dug6bntAhWBwVkKHWghBkYQjJkEegQIBRAB&biw=1440&bih=789).

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/585 "2020-12-06T16:58:00Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> {…} Maybe something in Latin. {…}

I believe you want _toque cock_, from Canadian Latin.  
Roughly translates as ‘being a dick head’.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/586 "2020-12-06T16:58:24Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> [El Niño](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS920US927&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=trump+baby+balloon+image&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwic6dug6bntAhWBwVkKHWghBkYQjJkEegQIBRAB&biw=1440&bih=789).

Yay! A perfect response to anything at all related to Trump.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/587 "2020-12-06T17:00:12Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Roughly translates as ‘being a dick head’.

“Dick **Hat** ”

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/588 "2020-12-06T17:00:37Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> But it seems more interesting to attack dumb thinking rather go round and round with _tu-quoque-or-not-tu-quoque._

His tu quoque in the original thread deserved to be called out in one post, maybe two.

His dishonest attempt to retcon the post into something else deserves another, larger, helping of scorn an approbation.

Stupid and delusional are fine to point and laugh at and then walk away.

Dishonesty, on the other hand, can not be allowed to go unchallenged.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/589 "2021-03-22T23:01:20Z")

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He’s at it again. This post and other nonsensical posts like it.

> [@Cultural grievance is not a governing agenda!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-grievance-is-not-a-governing-agenda/937288/87):
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> Given that there is still a standing army in Washington over two minths later with no known threats, I believe this is all just theater to smear Republicans in general to justify more surveillance, IRS shenanigans, ‘Operation Chokepoint’ style nonsense, etc.

He’s managed to convince himself that there is no threat of right wing political violence and the whole thing is just an act by the left for the purpose of seizing more power.

This is up is down, black is white, full on chicken fucking.

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**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/590 "2021-03-22T23:16:21Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> It’s just that they think that they are in on it. That Trump is just lying to us, but not to them.

Do you think that there are any politicians that don’t lie?

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/591 "2021-03-22T23:21:52Z")

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> [@EastUmpqua](#):
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> Do you think that there are any politicians that don’t lie?

As much as Trump? What do you figure?

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/592 "2021-03-22T23:26:37Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> As much as Trump? What do you figure?

Trump sets a very low bar. That was not my question.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/593 "2021-03-22T23:33:03Z")

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> [@EastUmpqua](#):
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> Trump sets a very low bar. That was not my question.

Meh, because of the stupidity of your question, my answer more than suffices.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/594 "2021-03-22T23:34:37Z")

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If someone jaywalked once, then you cannot judge someone else for robbing a bank; they both broke the law.

#bothsides#bullshit

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/595 "2021-03-22T23:43:55Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> If someone jaywalked once, then you cannot judge someone else for robbing a bank; they both broke the law.

I assume this is an attempt at humour. If you don’t think all politicians should be held accountable for their statements, then I disagree with you.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/596 "2021-03-22T23:50:16Z")

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If you think that anyone who lies should be executed by firing squad, I’m going to have to disagree with you.

(see what I did there?)

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/597 "2021-03-22T23:51:29Z")

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> [@EastUmpqua](#):
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> Trump sets a very low bar. That was not my question.

This thread is about is about a gullible dipshit who took a Trump Tweet at face value. The fact that Trump is a very low bar (maybe the lowest) is extremely relevant.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/598 "2021-03-22T23:52:59Z")

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> [@EastUmpqua](#):
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> I assume this is an attempt at humour. If you don’t think all politicians should be held accountable for their statements, then I disagree with you.

I think you do miss the point, Trump is the bank robber and still on the lose while other politicians can and are accountable for their jaywalking. The point stands, until Trump and many republicans are held accountable, what you are doing is in reality making all politicians as being the same when that is grossly not the case.

> **[Trump told 30,000 untruths during presidency, say analysts](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-lies-false-presidency-b1790285.html)**
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> Former president made almost 21 untrue statements a day while in office, analysis suggests

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/599 "2021-03-23T00:00:57Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> I think you do miss the point, Trump is the bank robber and still on the lose while other politicians can and are accountable for their jaywalking.

I get your point. I just don’t think that because Trump lied 30,000 times (analysis suggests), other politicians are just jaywalking. We need to demand more from our politicians. The low bar Trump set isn’t a valid excuse.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/600 "2021-03-23T00:03:07Z")

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Of course. For you to make sense you had to omit what I also posted:

> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> The point stands, until Trump and many republicans are held accountable, what you are doing is in reality making all politicians as being the same when that is grossly not the case.

Nowhere I do deny that we have to demand better, the point is that you are insisting on making them be the same when that is not the case.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/601 "2021-03-23T00:09:03Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Nowhere I do deny that we have to demand better, the point is that you are insisting on making them be the same when that is not the case.

Thanks for the edit. I don’t mean to imply that all politicians are equally egregious. My point is that we need higher standards.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/602 "2021-03-23T00:40:01Z")

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> [@EastUmpqua](#):
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> I get your point. I just don’t think that because Trump lied 30,000 times (analysis suggests), other politicians are just jaywalking. We need to demand more from our politicians. The low bar Trump set isn’t a valid excuse

So what you are saying is that we should “Look! Over there!!”?

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