# Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633 "2020-10-10T13:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/603 "2021-03-23T00:50:50Z")
Don’t you think the guy who currently leads one of the major political parties and is, by far, the largest vessel of dangerous untruths would be a fantastic place to start with this plan? ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/604 "2021-03-23T00:50:52Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So what you are saying is that we should “Look! Over there!!”? Nope. What I’m saying is that it’s our responsibility as voters to look at a politician’s credibility and political ideology and vote for what we think represents our own political ideology. And get information from other sources beyond cable news. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/605 "2021-03-23T01:00:09Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > Nope. What I’m saying is that it’s our responsibility as voters to look at a politician’s credibility and political ideology and vote for what we think represents our own political ideology. And get information from other sources beyond cable news. A sense of proportion would help too, wouldn’t you say? ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/606 "2021-03-23T01:12:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > A sense of proportion would help too, wouldn’t you say? I think you can compare political ideologies and call it a sense of proportion, but that seems subjective. When we talk about a politician’s degree of credibility, that should be more objective. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/607 "2021-03-23T01:13:52Z")
Yeah, as long as it isn’t the politician whose ass you’re currently kissing, right troll? ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/608 "2021-03-23T01:17:59Z")
I respect you because you are a Charter Member. That doesn’t mean I agree with you. So now I’m a troll… ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/609 "2021-03-23T01:44:20Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > So now I’m a troll… You’ve been trolling for a while. The “no one can possibly be this stupid” version of trolling. Which means you’re not trolling by choice, you’re just incapable of not doing so due to your limited ability to reason and comprehend logic. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/610 "2021-03-23T01:48:45Z")
> [@naita](#): > > You’ve been trolling for a while. The “no one can possibly be this stupid” version of trolling. Which means you’re not trolling by choice, you’re just incapable of not doing so due to your limited ability to reason and comprehend logic That about says it all. We are down to “Idiot, or asshole?”, so which do you prefer? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/611 "2021-03-23T01:55:31Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > > [@GIGObuster](#): > > > > Nowhere I do deny that we have to demand better, the point is that you are insisting on making them be the same when that is not the case. > > Thanks for the edit. **I don’t mean to imply that all politicians are equally egregious.** FWIW, I don’t believe you. Because… > [@](#): > > My point is that we need higher standards. This conversation WAS about something entirely different from our need for higher standards (a “point” that is tautological enough to be characterized as trivial). Would you be good enough to explain why you felt compelled to interject it here? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/612 "2021-03-23T01:55:32Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > I respect you because you are a Charter Member. I suspect the depth of sincerity when it comes that “respect” can be measured in microns. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/613 "2021-03-23T01:55:41Z")
> [@naita](#): > > You’ve been trolling for a while. The “no one can possibly be this stupid” version of trolling. Which means you’re not trolling by choice, you’re just incapable of not doing so due to your limited ability to reason and comprehend logic. Naita, you seem charming, polite, and intelligent. I hope that you are more personable in person. I don’t want to be disrespectful, so I’ll just say that it’s a pleasure to meet you. Joseph ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/614 "2021-03-23T01:57:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > > [@EastUmpqua](#): > > > > I respect you because you are a Charter Member. > > I suspect the depth of sincerity when it comes that “respect” can be measured in microns. Nitpick: Angstroms. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/615 "2021-03-23T01:59:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I suspect the depth of sincerity when it comes that “respect” can be measured in microns. It would be measured in the beers we drink. I’ll buy. My respect is genuine. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/616 "2021-03-23T02:00:23Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > Naita, you seem charming, polite, and intelligent. I hope that you are more personable in person. I don’t want to be disrespectful, so I’ll just say that it’s a pleasure to meet you. > Joseph If I had to deal with the kind of shit you post, I’d throw my hands up and try to avoid ever having to have a conversation with you again. Try spending some more time reading for comprehension and humbly considering you might be as ignorant as we tell you you are and you might become a person it’s worth having a conversation with. Bob ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/617 "2021-03-23T02:04:06Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > Naita, you seem charming, polite, and intelligent. I hope that you are more personable in person. I don’t want to be disrespectful, so I’ll just say that it’s a pleasure to meet you. > Joseph Jesus, what an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/618 "2021-03-23T02:05:30Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Bob How many of my posts have you seen? I’m really not a bad guy. I’m old, I drink beer, I have a good job, and I learn a ton of stuff on SD. Nice to meet you. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/619 "2021-03-23T02:13:55Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > How many of my posts have you seen? I’m really not a bad guy. I’m old, I drink beer, I have a good job, and I learn a ton of stuff on SD. Nice to meet you. Here’s a complete record of all your posts that I consider stupid: [google docs](http://yeahnotdoingthat) Have I written you are a bad guy? No. But you post a lot of “too dumb to be real” shit and then spend a lot of time defending it with shitty logic or this “I’m a real person!”-shtick. A shtick that is not a distinguishing factor between “sophisticated troll” and “too dumb to think his way out of a three way internet argument” by the way. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/620 "2021-03-23T02:31:11Z")
> [@naita](#): > > But you post a lot of “too dumb to be real” shit and then spend a lot of time defending it with shitty logic or this “I’m a real person!”-shtick. Have a better day tomorrow. I think you need a hug (not from me). Tell your significant other that you love them. Pet your dog (or cat). I’ll own idiot, but not troll. Keep in touch. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/621 "2021-03-23T02:35:00Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > Have a better day tomorrow. I think you need a hug (not from me). Tell your significant other that you love them. Pet your dog (or cat). I’ll own idiot, but not troll. Keep in touch. You are greatly overestimating your influence on my well being. And being as dumb as you is, as you would have learnt if you had read this thread for comprehension, a form of trolling. Please don’t keep in touch unless it’s to post thoughtful questions to work on your intellectual shortcomings. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/622 "2021-03-23T02:38:05Z")
> [@naita](#): > > Please don’t keep in touch unless it’s to post thoughtful questions to work on your intellectual shortcomings. I promise I’ll work on that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633.md?page=32)