# Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633 "2020-10-10T13:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/984 "2021-07-06T22:44:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > out of the 550 or so people who were there, maybe 25-50 of them were up to a lot more than just venting, 530 have been charged so far. I would think a heck of a lot more than 550 breached the police lines and entered the building. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/985 "2021-07-06T22:48:39Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > See, this is typical. I was specifically responding to a simple question dircted at me, asking what other riots had gallows. I provided a list of them. Whether you mean to or not (and it’s not a good look either way), it’s just you strawmanning the comment. Anyone can see that there’s an enormous difference between a gallows used symbolically (miniature gallows, gallows used with an effigy, gallows used to “hang” the protestors themselves) vs. one apparently constructed to hang actual living politicians. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/986 "2021-07-06T22:52:05Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Every time I post about Trump I go to pains to say that the guy is an ass and a blight on American politics. I hold him responsible for quite a bit of the extreme reaction we got from the left, and for lowering the overall ability of both sides to talk to each other. And yet, for not agreeing woth every single part of the left-wing orthodoxy I get painted as a gullible Trump toady. Because in the end, you show to others that in reality you never learned anything, and chief among those lessons you should have learned is to avoid drinking from the still misleading right wing sources of information. It is not strange then that you will continue to fall for ways to ignore context and looking (willfully or not) as a supporter of Trump or his toadies. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/987 "2021-07-06T22:52:15Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > out of the 550 or so people who were there, maybe 25-50 of them were up to a lot more than just venting, > > 530 have been charged so far. > I would think a heck of a lot more than 550 breached the police lines and entered the building. [545 charged to date, actually.](https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1) But not to worry. Sam will be along shortly to tell us that he never actually said that. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/988 "2021-07-06T22:55:09Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > But not to worry. Sam will be along shortly to tell us that he never actually said that. I wonder where he got his “maybe 25-50” number? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/989 "2021-07-06T23:09:24Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I hold him responsible for quite a bit of the extreme reaction we got from the left, Who do you hold responsible for the raving, violent insanity we get from the right? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/990 "2021-07-06T23:12:07Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I thought maybe a single one of them \*might have truth to it, not because Trump is believable but because the circumstances of that one meant that a lie would be particularly stupid And you _still_ can’t admit how amazingly dumb that was. There were no special circumstances for that tweet - it was the same mindless, fact free blather as the rest of his tweets. And you still bought it. And you still can’t admit, apparently even to yourself, how massively gullible you were. That’s why I started this thread. And you’re proving that you haven’t learned a single lesson from that mistake, even though you’ve actually admitted it was a mistake. Wouldn’t you like to learn from it? Wouldn’t you like to not be so horribly gullible? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/991 "2021-07-06T23:55:03Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Who do you hold responsible for the raving, violent insanity we get from the right? The left, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/992 "2021-07-07T00:54:20Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I wonder where he got his “maybe 25-50” number I think I know, and I hope he was wearing rubber gloves when he pulled them out. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/993 "2021-07-07T03:44:59Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > Except for Ashli Babbit, who was shot while being unarmed herself. > > She was part of a mob assaulting police and refusing police orders to disperse. > > Don’t Republicans normally say that such situations justify lethal force, and any resulting deaths are just an unavoidable shame that’s entirely the fault of the victim failing to follow police commands? > > Can’t white put my finger on why this situation is different. Doesn’t the Right also generally adhere to the “if you’ve done nothing wrong, then you have no reason to be afraid” credo regarding criminals being shot by law enforcement? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/994 "2021-07-07T10:57:59Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Doesn’t the Right also generally adhere to the “if you’ve done nothing wrong, then you have no reason to be afraid” credo regarding criminals being shot by law enforcement? Yeah. I mean, obviously Ashli Babbit was resisting, so unfortunately she had to get shot in the face. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/995 "2021-08-16T01:11:25Z")
Another of Sam’s greatest hits, > [@Frustrations as a healthcare worker...Obama's Bash](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frustrations-as-a-healthcare-worker-obamas-bash/948733/18): > > Well, COVID cases are now surging on Martha’s vineyard. It’s too early to tell whether the Obama bash was a contributor, but it was the largest event in the area. > > And how disgusting is it for this ‘man of the people’ to invite the A-list of celebrities and the rich and powerful, along with 200 servants to his 25 acre mansion when the average person is supposed to mask up and lock down? The hypocrisy is breathtaking from someone who spent his career railing against the rich. > > Even more disgusting was ‘Climate advisor’ John Kerry flying in his Gulfstream V, releasing 5000 kg of CO2 per hour. > > These are the people who are supposed to lead by example, and they behave like spoiled children. Maybe someone can find all the posts where Sam criticizes Republicans/conservatives with the same enthusiasm? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/996 "2021-08-16T01:18:16Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Maybe someone can find all the posts where Sam criticizes Republicans/conservatives with the same enthusiasm? - Here’s a list: ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/997 "2021-08-16T01:28:59Z")
I like the GIF Rationalwiki shows when there are no science organizations of the world that support a pseudo-science and have to post an opposite list. [![](https://rationalwiki.org/w/images/2/2f/Tumbleweed.gif) ](https://rationalwiki.org/w/images/2/2f/Tumbleweed.gif) [![](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Tumbleweed.gif) ](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Tumbleweed.gif) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/998 "2021-08-16T02:06:16Z")
Sam Stone is just another disingenuous mother fucker, like D’Anconia. They need to be chased off the board for being the frauds they are. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/999 "2021-08-16T13:16:19Z")
You’re going to want to sit down for this, but the John Kerry private jet business is right wing lies that Sam uncritically accepted as true. 😲 > “Secretary Kerry lives on Martha’s Vineyard, he did not travel there for a party. He took a ferry to Martha’s Vineyard, he did not fly commercial or private,” a state department spokesperson said. [Source](https://www.yahoo.com/now/conservatives-hit-climate-envoy-john-214500072.html) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1000 "2021-08-16T15:28:58Z")
What? Are you telling us that Sam is still getting his “facts” from craptastic sources and is not checking to see if he is repeating their lies? I am shocked. _Shocked_. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1001 "2021-08-16T16:01:18Z")
I’m sure Sam will acknowledge his error, just as he has all the other times he’s been shown to be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1002 "2021-08-16T16:13:03Z")
In before, ‘The truth is on Joe… I mean Hunter Biden’s laptop but you people are to scared to look at it!’ ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1003 "2021-08-16T16:36:02Z")
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