# Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633 "2020-10-10T13:47:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1184 "2021-09-12T20:54:04Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Your graph shows that all of the ‘most partisan Democrat’ states have net outwards internal migration, while the majority of ‘most Republican’ states have net internal migration.

It also shows that the three most partisan Republican states have net outwards internal migration.

Give it up. The trend you seek isn’t really there. Find a different chicken to fuck.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1185 "2021-09-27T01:28:56Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What are the chances now that @Sam_Stone comes back with a “question” about Hunter Biden’s supposed laptop? Sam, are you still buying what the Trump campaign is selling?

The Hunter Biden Laptop story was real.

> **[The Hunter Biden e-mail coverup is the clearest evidence yet of media corruption](https://nypost.com/2021/09/24/the-hunter-biden-e-mail-coverup-is-clearest-evidence-of-media-corruption/)**
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> The Hunter Biden e-mail coverup may not be the most contemptible example of the modern political media’s corruption, but it is probably the most demonstrable, writes David Harsanyi.

There are now confirmation of the E-mails on it from multiple sources, including the Swedish government. Among the E-mails confirmed was the one discussing a potential payout from China, with 10% going to ‘the big guy’.

On the other hand, the Alfa Bank Trump server story, which most of the most virulent attackers of the right here bought hook, line and sinker, was total horseshit. As was the Steele Dossier. And like a lot of people on the right said at the time, it was all dirty tricks paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Now that Joe Biden has turned out to be a spectacular failure and liability to Democrats and the hated Donald Trump is out of the picture, I expect more revelations about what happened in 2016 and 2020 will be appearing.

Would anyone care to apologize for the vitriol spit at the conservatives on this board who believed the laptop story might be true?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1186 "2021-09-27T01:38:34Z")

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You’re a fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1187 "2021-09-27T01:54:52Z")

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> **[Opinion | Vindication Over Hunter’s Emails](https://www.wsj.com/articles/vindication-over-hunter-biden-emails-new-york-post-politico-11632521169)**
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> Politico confirms the New York Post story the Bidens never denied.

From Politico’s playbook on Tuesday:

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> **FIRST IN PLAYBOOK — Ben Schreckinger’s “The Bidens: Inside the First Family’s Fifty-Year Rise to Power,” out today, finds evidence that some of the purported HUNTER BIDEN laptop material is genuine, including two emails at the center of last October’s controversy.**
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> **A person who had independent access to Hunter Biden’s emails confirmed he did receive a 2015 email from a Ukrainian businessman thanking him for the chance to meet Joe Biden. The same goes for a 2017 email in which a proposed equity breakdown of a venture with Chinese energy executives includes the line, “10 held by H for the big guy?”** (This person recalled seeing both emails, but was not in a position to compare the leaked emails word-for-word to the originals.)
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> MORE: Emails released by a Swedish government agency also match emails in the leaked cache, and two people who corresponded with Hunter Biden confirmed emails from the cache were genuine.
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> While the leak contains genuine files, it remains possible that fake material has been slipped in…
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> WHAT DOES HUNTER HAVE TO SAY? This spring, he told CBS the laptop “certainly” could be his. His lawyer, CHRIS CLARK, did not respond to questions for the book.

I love that last part. A laptop full of E-mails and private photos, and when he’s asked whether it’s his, he says “It certainly could be”. Well, okay then.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1188 "2021-09-27T02:04:58Z")

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Taliban Sam, revels in the death of American troops and Afghan civilians.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1189 "2021-09-27T02:17:30Z")

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Sam Stone is gullible and mendacious. But he does excel at huffing Trump’s farts. So he’s not without value as a poster.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1190 "2021-09-27T02:21:44Z")

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You really are despicable. But in a completely ineffective way.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1191 "2021-09-27T02:22:19Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Now that Joe Biden has turned out to be a spectacular failure and liability to Democrats

Huh? Of course conservatives would automatically try to paint any Democratic administration as “a spectacular failure and liability to Democrats”, but there seems no reason for a rational person to believe it.

Especially given the recalibration of such assessments by the previous administration. On what possible scale that also includes Donald Trump could Joe Biden be credibly described as “a spectacular failure”? (After barely eight months in office, yet.)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1192 "2021-09-27T02:24:16Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> On what possible scale that also includes Donald Trump could Joe Biden be credibly described as “a spectacular failure”? -

It’s always Opposite Day in **Sam’s** world.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1193 "2021-09-27T02:24:18Z")

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You cited the Murdoch’s print organ which published a story to support some bullshit pushed by the Murdoch’s television organ. Is that correct?

This is about as legitimate as a glowing Washington Post review of Amazon prime.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1194 "2021-09-27T02:25:06Z")

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You’re the worst kind of scumbag, Sam. You actually attempt to infuse some level of intellectual rigor into your completely baseless (probably plagiarized) screeds. You’re not just shit; you’re shit that’s been baking in the bowels for a good day or two, excreted wet, sloppy, and smelly. You’re a foul fucker for sure.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1195 "2021-09-27T02:25:10Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> You really are despicable. But in a completely ineffective way.

And you are irredeemable human garbage. We all have our faults.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1196 "2021-09-27T02:45:13Z")

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“Hunter Biden’s laptop” is going to be the new “Benghazi”. Something that may or may not have relevance or importance to anything but conveniently carries a prominent democratic politcians name that will have scant real reporting and an avalanche of “analysis” and “opinion” pieces that can be quoted on facebook, twitter, reddit, and places like the dope to create volume and space in the public discourse.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1197 "2021-09-27T03:03:42Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> “Hunter Biden’s laptop” is going to be the new “Benghazi”.

Even Sam’s first cite, from the decidedly Biden-hostile NY Post, acknowledges that

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> We don’t know whether Joe Biden has engaged in any criminal, corrupt or even fishy behavior

So far, the “story” seems to be basically that Hunter Biden officially stated that a laptop credibly ascribed to his possession could be his, instead of definitively asserting that it was his. Gee.

The rest of the complaints seem to consist mostly of butthurt about whether mainstream media were reporting this story avidly enough. (And some objections about censorship on social media, which is not the same thing as news media.)

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1198 "2021-09-27T03:09:29Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Even Sam’s first cite, from the decidedly Biden-hostile NY Post, acknowledges that

Look forward to at least 3 more years of breathless “reporting” every couple of months of new “revelations” regarding the laptop to keep people like Sam stirred up. This is just beginning.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1199 "2021-09-27T03:38:52Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> And you are irredeemable human garbage.

I’m trying to cut Sam some slack for his inflated conservative cheerleading these days because it could be in part a cognitive-dissonance thing connected to conservative mismanagement of the COVID crisis in Alberta.

The whole situation with vaccines and public-health protocols is a massive indictment of conservative and libertarian anti-government and anti-facts approaches everywhere. Sam is not as anti-facts and anti-government as some of his ilk, but when he sees conservative policies leading to predictable and avoidable catastrophes, he not unnaturally reaches for the anti-liberal mental security blankies of “Hunter Biden’s laptop” and “liberal media conspiracy” and “Biden is a failure” and so on to distract himself from the unpleasant implications.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1200 "2021-09-27T04:29:06Z")

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Hell, the laptop could be mine. I’ve had a couple of old laptops and have no idea where they are.

Of course that’s no more relevant than the suggestion that the laptop could be Hunter’s, or Trump’s, or maybe Ozzy Osbourne’s. Until there is proof of who it belongs to and what’s on it, rather than partisan speculation, it’s worth less than shit.

At this point I put it with Mike Lindell’s magic packets in the category of desperate right wing fantasy,

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1201 "2021-09-27T06:10:49Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> At this point I put it with Mike Lindell’s magic packets in the category of desperate right wing fantasy

So where do you think Mike Lindell gets all those magic packets from, huh? Why, from Hunter Biden’s alleged laptop that was found at that old pawn shop in New Jersey or wherever it was, of course!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1202 "2021-09-27T09:17:11Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> The Hunter Biden Laptop story was real.

In that the laptop probably belongs to Hunter Biden. Wow. You’ve really cracked this case, **Sam**.

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Would anyone care to apologize for the vitriol spit at the conservatives on this board who believed the laptop story might be true?

Like your desperate flailing about the Russia story, you appear to believe that if you can prove yourself even 1% right, the other 99% which remains demonstrable bullshit will somehow transmute itself into gold.

What exactly do you think you’ve demonstrated here, **Sam** , and why in God’s name do you think it somehow vindicates you? I mean, that article alone is a litany of unsupported assertion, insinuation and slur, and remarkably light on actual substance or evidence. Is that what you consider a credible source? Your apparent assumption that this shows you were somehow right all along remains utterly unjustified.

But since you asked: would **you** care to apologize for the multiple times you’ve been spectacularly wrong and have simply ignored the debunking and carried on repeating your skewed narratives? Or for the endless attempts to assign blame to the left for everything the right does? And would you care to apologize for _this_ extra shovelful of shit you’ve added to the pile?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1203 "2021-09-27T09:46:28Z")

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An opinion column from a right wing tool? Wow, you’ve really cracked the case! It’s possible that Hunter may have once had a laptop, and, horror of horrors, that laptop _may have had emails on it_!

This is just the break the Trump campaign was waiting for!

Sam, you’re still as gullible as a toddler. Apparently you’ve learned nothing from trusting Trump’s tweets.

Sad. Amusing, but also sad.

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