# Sam Stone believes Trump's tweets **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633 "2020-10-10T13:47:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1444 "2022-11-26T18:03:03Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I love it that a straightforward example of what we are talking about has become a ‘debacle’ because some of the mean girls in the pit took exception. > > It’s rather pathetic. Nah, what it is pathetic is to continue to willfully ignore that most here are aware of many of the items you point out -like with the Hunter Biden laptop-, (BTW me and others already point out that your examples of programming are useful, but at the college level) but as I already pointed, most of the Twitter programmers and engineers **already did pass an even better test** than high school level programming. When they demonstratively made Twitter to be as reliable as it is now. There are doubts now about that reliability going forward, and this distraction of yours has the result of not dealing with the degradation of the human element by the new management, by Musk allowing the worst of society to come back to twitter. Musk is also demonstrating that he is being groomed by the worst influencers to do more harm in the future. For that, **no programming test can protect the public.** At the rate he is going, his declared mission about dealing with climate change thanks to his electric cars will be dropped soon, as climate change is a hoax for many of those bad influencers. (I have seen this with many smart people, even in the dope, too many times I have seen right-wingers degrade from having some prejudices to become deniers of science thanks to bad influences, and it will be worse if a Billionaire will use his power to justify his new “discoveries” for anti-social regression.) And now I’m glad that besides having a technology background, that I also had an education in the social sciences. It allows me to point out how inadequate you are at explaining things. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1445 "2022-11-26T18:11:10Z")
“Sam Stone is Jordan Peterson” is the insight I didn’t know I was looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1446 "2022-11-26T18:20:17Z")
Hmmm… > [@Tell me about Jordan Peterson](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-jordan-peterson/810938/100): > > Peterson would have considered himself center-left not too long ago. But he has landed in the company of people like Sam Harris, Steven Pinker, Richard Dawkins, Brett Weinstein and others who consider themselves on the ‘left’, and some conservative thinkers from the ‘right’ like Charles Murray, Andrew Sullivan and others who have found themselves unlikely allies who are utterly alienated by the illiberal social justice and postmodern left, and repelled by what has become of the right. I find myself in the same strange place. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1447 "2022-11-26T23:45:20Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > When they demonstratively made Twitter to be as reliable as it is now. Until Musk started the mass layoffs, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1448 "2022-11-27T03:10:31Z")
Sam Stone is full of shit. That’s all anyone needs to know. When you see a post from this “Canadian”, skip it. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1449 "2022-11-27T17:10:30Z")
I’m partial to blithering idiot and liar but I agree skipping his posts are typically the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1450 "2022-11-27T22:12:13Z")
Disingenuous bastard claims to have had no idea that 88 has any Nazi connotations. Unbelievable. Literally. What a turd. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1451 "2022-11-27T22:17:36Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > What a turd. “Flush, damn you! Flush!” Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1452 "2022-11-27T22:18:53Z")
Apparently I don’t follow Nazis as closely as you do. I guess everyone needs a hobby. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1453 "2022-11-27T22:19:50Z")
You’d have to be willfully blind and deaf to an extent that indicates serious mental illness. I guess we can believe you. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1454 "2022-11-27T22:22:05Z")
Next up, you are going to be reclaiming the swastika as an innocent Buddhist/Hindu symbol. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1455 "2022-11-27T22:24:23Z")
Or you are making a huge category error in assuming that everyone reads and follows the same things you do. I just looked it up, and it seems like a skinhead thing. Since I don’t follow or read skinheads, and don’t read the literature about them, it was easy to not know this. I suspect this is ‘common knowledge’ on the far left, and maybe on the far right, but I’ll bet your average normal person on the right had no idea. I certainly didn’t. As for the swastika… You should be ashamed of throwing around Nazi accusations. Not only is it offensive, but it diminishes the evil of real Naziism when you associate it with people you simply don’t like or who don’t agree with you politically. Nazis are a unique brand of evil, and you should know that. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1456 "2022-11-27T22:25:38Z")
Or you’re just lying. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1457 "2022-11-27T22:47:29Z")
@Sam_Stone you are either lying or an idiot in terms of the significance of 88. It’s extremely common symbology on the internet and very common knowledge. But I can believe either way. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I suspect this is ‘common knowledge’ on the far left, and maybe on the far right, but I’ll bet your average normal person on the right had no idea. I certainly didn’t. Here’s the thing Sam. You “believe” and “suspect” a lot of bullshit. You’re wrong about a lot of things, **constantly**. You are trying to frame this as others being in a bubble and assuming that they are speaking about obscure knowledge unknown outside of that bubble but you’re wrong. You’re projecting. The truth is the opposite. **You’re** the one in a bubble, and you’re very ignorant about things outside your own small bubble. I was a conservative pre-Trump and yet I’ve known that terminology for a decade or so. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1458 "2022-11-27T23:04:16Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Disingenuous bastard claims to have had no idea that 88 has any Nazi connotations. Unbelievable. Literally. What a turd. The whole point of a dog whistle like “88” is so that people can claim ignorance of what it means, while knowing that everyone knows what it means. “Oh golly, I had no idea that 88 had Nazi connotations. Oh dear.” \< wink \> Sam is just following the script. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1459 "2022-11-27T23:08:01Z")
> [@Is it Legal? Elon Musk ultimatum. Do ‘extremely hardcore’ work or get out](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-legal-elon-musk-ultimatum-do-extremely-hardcore-work-or-get-out/975040/282): > > If you can impress a billionaire that you are special, you might leapfrog years or decades of advancement the traditional way. This is seriously nauseating. “Please notice me, Elon!” ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1460 "2022-11-27T23:33:16Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Sam is just following the script. Which is titled _The Triumph of Fatuousness_. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1461 "2022-11-27T23:35:37Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I suspect this is ‘common knowledge’ on the far left, and maybe on the far right, but I’ll bet your average normal person on the right had no idea. But you’re not an average normal person on the right, right? You’re a doper. It’s common knowledge here on the SDMB. This is where I learned about it, at least. For as much as you post you really should have learned this at some point. If you don’t think you’re more well-informed than the average mope, then why do you type so damn much? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1462 "2022-11-27T23:39:00Z")
Seriously. If Sam honestly thinks there’s a whole bunch of extremely talented developers willing to kill themselves working on fucking _Twitter_ while fellating the world’s richest man, he’s obscenely out of touch with younger people. If he thinks he’d be among that group if he were just a little younger, he’s delusional. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633/1463 "2022-11-27T23:48:29Z")
I’m sorry that I’m not so well informed about the nuances of Nazi symbolism. It’s not really an interest of mine. YMMV. I just asked my wife what ‘88’ meant. She had no clue. I told her it was a Nazi symbol, and her response was, 'Huh? New to me. Never heard that before." I guess she should surrender her Masters degree for not being educated well enough or something. Neither of us are Nazi aficionados, or Nazi hunters. We don’t obsess over sussing out hidden ‘nazis’ on the right, so we don’t read articles explaining the symbols. We’re also Canadian. Maybe that explains it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sam-stone-believes-trumps-tweets/922633.md?page=74)