# Samclem, you're wrong **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [August 27, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349 "2013-08-27T23:58:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/1 "2013-08-27T23:58:38Z")
In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=700595) you said: > [@samclem](#): > > **rockinglicks**. Welcome. I’ve moved your post to MPSIMS from General Questions. I’ve also removed your signature. You must be a paid member to have a signautre. > > Read some of the instructions for using the Board. > > [FAQs - Please Read First - Rules, Guidelines, Etiquette, Technical Issues - About This Message Board - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562482) > > **samclem** , moderator Not only did to misspell signature, but you are flat out wrong about signatures only being allowed for paid members. Do try to learn the rules you’re supposed to enforce. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/2 "2013-08-28T00:04:11Z")
[From here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7697069#post7697069) > [@](#): > > Who can use signatures? > Anybody can type a signoff at the end of a post, but only paid members may have signatures set up in their profiles (to set one up, click “User CP” on the menu bar at the top of each page, and then choose “Edit Signature” from the menu on the left). **rockinglicks** sig. was spam anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/3 "2013-08-28T00:05:15Z")
It will make me laugh if the ultimate result of this thread is Oakminster getting signatures disabled for all the guests on the board, including himself. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/4 "2013-08-28T00:06:27Z")
Really? Let’s see… Survey says: Signatures enabled for guests. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/5 "2013-08-28T00:08:01Z")
From [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697069&postcount=14): **Who can use signatures?** Anybody can type a signoff at the end of a post, but only paid members may have signatures set up in their profiles (to set one up, click “User CP” on the menu bar at the top of each page, and then choose “Edit Signature” from the menu on the left). … **I like to sign my name at the end of each of my posts. Is that OK?** You can do a simple signoff of the form: [complimentary close - optional] [your name] ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/6 "2013-08-28T00:08:03Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Not only did to misspell signature, but you are flat out wrong about signatures only being allowed for paid members. Do try to learn the rules you’re supposed to enforce. I think you’re missing a “nyah!” in there somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/7 "2013-08-28T00:45:41Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > [From here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7697069#post7697069) > **rockinglicks** sig. was spam anyway. I’m pretty sure that rule is outdated. I remember having a discussion with Ed about it in this very forum, probably around June, 2010. As I recall, Ed just deleted everybody’s signatures…or maybe just the signatures of guests. I protested, and won a reversal of the policy and a restoration of the signatures. Unfortunately, I can’t find the thread with a search. I did find an email from Tuba Diva providing me with the text from my signature, which I greatly appreciated. That’s how I can narrow down the timeframe of when this happened. Also, I note that I do, in fact, have a signature attached to my profile, and I am a guest, therefore, Samclem is wrong in the statement he made. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/8 "2013-08-28T00:51:06Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Not only did to misspell signature… There’s something funy about this comment ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/9 "2013-08-28T01:02:37Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I’m pretty sure that rule is outdated. I remember having a discussion with Ed about it in this very forum, probably around June, 2010. As I recall, Ed just deleted everybody’s signatures…or maybe just the signatures of guests. I protested, and won a reversal of the policy and a restoration of the signatures. > > Unfortunately, I can’t find the thread with a search. I did find an email from Tuba Diva providing me with the text from my signature, which I greatly appreciated. That’s how I can narrow down the timeframe of when this happened. > > Also, I note that I do, in fact, have a signature attached to my profile, and I am a guest, therefore, Samclem is wrong in the statement he made. [Here’s the thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=567339&highlight=signature) [Ed’s post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12588316&postcount=14) > [@](#): > > While we’re at it we’re going to make sig files a member benefit and disable them for non-members. That doesn’t mean non-members can’t have signatures, but they must enter them manually. Non-members can’t post links in sigs, though. Read the rest. It kind of goes back and forth for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/10 "2013-08-28T01:16:04Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > [Here’s the thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=567339&highlight=signature) > [Ed’s post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12588316&postcount=14) > > Read the rest. It kind of goes back and forth for a while. Your search-fu is stronger than mine. That’s exactly what I was remembering. I take this post as the final resolution: > [@Alright to link to my blog?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-to-link-to-my-blog/543384/31): > > Incidentally, it occurred to me I was hasty in shutting off autosigs for guests without notice, in case somebody had something they wanted to save. So they’ve been (or soon will be) restored. Once we get squared away on what we’re going to do, we’ll post an announcement. as I don’t remember seeing an announcement of anything different. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/11 "2013-08-28T02:43:15Z")
I, for one, support **samclem** ’s moderation. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/12 "2013-08-28T02:50:33Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Your search-fu is stronger than mine. That’s exactly what I was remembering. I take this post as the final resolution: > > as I don’t remember seeing an announcement of anything different. When was the FAQ updated to include the rule that sigs for guests were not allowed? If it was after Ed’s post, then that would seem to serve as the announcement. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/13 "2013-08-28T02:57:41Z")
Well, [here’s a thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680241) from this year where samclem apparently forgot that guests can’t have signatures. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/14 "2013-08-28T02:58:33Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > When was the FAQ updated to include the rule that sigs for guests were not allowed? If it was after Ed’s post, then that would seem to serve as the announcement. The first one I linked to was from 2006, the second one from 2010 left it kind of hanging. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/15 "2013-08-28T03:01:07Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > The first one I linked to was from 2006, the second one from 2010 left it kind of hanging. Right- Ed’s post you linked to was 6/8/2010. The FAQ on sigs was edited in 2013, but it’s not clear what that edit was for, or if earlier edits (which may have been the update Ed is referring to) were done. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/16 "2013-08-28T04:12:15Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Not only did to misspell signature, but you are flat out wrong about signatures only being allowed for paid members. Do try to learn the rules you’re supposed to enforce. I’ll try to spellcheck more often counselor. You’re correct, I misspoke. I should have said that Guests can’t have signatures set up in a signature file in their profile. They have to manually enter it into the post in question. Oh, and BTW, you have _your_ sig set up in your profile. I’d probably copy it down somewhere where you can retrieve it in the future(in case it disappears somehow). ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/17 "2013-08-28T04:13:44Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Oh, and BTW, you have _your_ sig set up in your profile. That would be his point. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/18 "2013-08-28T04:25:00Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Oh, and BTW, you have _your_ sig set up in your profile. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > That would be his point. If I’m correct, a guest can’t have a sig set up in their profile. You also have a sig set up in your profile. HIs point was I was incorrect about signatures only being allowed for paid members. I said he was correct and I was wrong. But, you have to manually enter your signature into your post in a thread. You can’t have it set up in your profile. I’ve sent this around to the mod/Admin loop in email. If I"m incorrect, I’ll let you know. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/19 "2013-08-28T04:29:24Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Oh, and BTW, you have _your_ sig set up in your profile. I’d probably copy it down somewhere where you can retrieve it in the future(in case it disappears somehow). Really? You’re threatening me? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/20 "2013-08-28T04:37:38Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Really? You’re threatening me? Not you, just your signature. Though it did come across kinda like a Mob boss. 😃 “That’s a nice signature you got there. Wouldn’t want anything to happen to it.” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349.md?page=2)