# Samclem, you're wrong **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [August 27, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349 "2013-08-27T23:58:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/21 "2013-08-28T04:38:26Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > But, you have to manually enter your signature into your post in a thread. You can’t have it set up in your profile. Nope. I didn’t manually enter jack shit down below. If you don’t want guests to have sigs in their profile, then you should remove it as a permission from the guest usergroup and not suddenly one day jump on a newbie when you yourself can be shown to have not been enforcing this rule until now. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/22 "2013-08-28T04:42:05Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > If I’m correct, a guest can’t have a sig set up in their profile. You also have a sig set up in your profile. > > HIs point was I was incorrect about signatures only being allowed for paid members. I said he was correct and I was wrong. > > But, you have to manually enter your signature into your post in a thread. You can’t have it set up in your profile. > > I’ve sent this around to the mod/Admin loop in email. If I"m incorrect, I’ll let you know. I didn’t manually enter anything. This is pretty laughable. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/23 "2013-08-28T04:45:24Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Nope. I didn’t manually enter jack shit down below. If you don’t want guests to have sigs in their profile, then you should remove it as a permission from the guest user group and not suddenly one day jump on a newbie when you yourself can be shown to have not been enforcing this rule until now. The Newbie in question posted a link in his signature. That is against the rules. I was wrong to tell him that guests couldn’t post signatures. I don’t think I’m incorrect about guests not being allowed to have automatic signatures enabled. I don’t think that the Board Administration has done anything to remove it as a permission from the guest user group. I think that’s the crux of the issue here. As I said, I’ll let you know what the decision of the admins of the Board is when I can. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/24 "2013-08-28T04:50:37Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > I didn’t manually enter anything. This is pretty laughable. ::sigh:: Copy down your signature. If the Administration of the Board decided to enable some switch that turns off automatic signatures in profiles for guests, then that signature won’t be there anymore. I don’t even know if such a switch exists. I’m just suggesting a prudent procedure. **Ed Zotti** , in the linked thread above, turned off signatures for all non-paying members. **Oakminster** complained that he lost his signature and didn’t have it written down anywhere. I’m just trying to give a head’s up here. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/25 "2013-08-28T04:51:12Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > If I’m correct, a guest can’t have a sig set up in their profile. You also have a sig set up in your profile. From the dates of the threads referenced above it seems like this idea may have been kicked around at one time, along with things like post counts and locations display being disabled for guests in an effort to generate revenue by offering such perks to paying members only. The idea about signatures was apparently shelved however, since the administrator settings of the board still allow guests to create signatures in their profiles. One would think if this was a board policy it would be a lot easier to disable guest signatures than leave them enabled and try to mod each poster individually by checking their profiles. In this age of userscripts and such, minor board features like these are insignificant anyway. Trying to sell them as member benefits is kind of silly. That said, the policy about post counts and locations remains. It is set up in such a way that paying members can’t see that information about guests, but guests can see it about paying members… which is kind of silly too. So maybe it is a policy but someone just forgot to turn off the switch that allows guest signatures. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/26 "2013-08-28T04:58:58Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > I don’t think I’m incorrect about guests not being allowed to have automatic signatures enabled. I don’t think that the Board Administration has done anything to remove it as a permission from the guest user group. I think that’s the crux of the issue here. I don’t really care about signatures. I almost never use mine and I often leave sig display off so other people having them is irrelevant to me. What I would like you to address is why you specifically have suddenly got an itch about this when you didn’t care before. If you wanted to really make a difference, ban sign offs. That would excite me. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/27 "2013-08-28T06:07:58Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > ::sigh:: > > Copy down your signature. If the Administration of the Board decided to enable some switch that turns off automatic signatures in profiles for guests, then that signature won’t be there anymore. I don’t even know if such a switch exists. I’m just suggesting a prudent procedure. > > **Ed Zotti** , in the linked thread above, turned off signatures for all non-paying members. **Oakminster** complained that he lost his signature and didn’t have it written down anywhere. I’m just trying to give a head’s up here. So you don’t know if the switch \*\*Ed Zotti \*\*used actually exists? And that threat you made about deleting my signature wasn’t really a threat. You were just being helpful. Right. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/28 "2013-08-28T07:28:59Z")
I can’t be the only one here wondering what the hell this has to do with moderators favouring liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/29 "2013-08-28T08:14:07Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > And that threat you made about deleting my signature wasn’t really a threat. You were just being helpful. Right. Regardless of whether it has been disabled in the User CP, the rule is very plain: guests are not allowed to have signatures set up in their profile. You’re a guest. Connect the dots. ---
**Author:** ![Kzbre5m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f08c70/32.png) [@Kzbre5m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kzbre5m)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/30 "2013-08-28T10:32:31Z")
Personally, I make a copy of everything before I delete it. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/31 "2013-08-28T11:01:09Z")
> [@oakminster](#): > > really? You’re threatening me? FiGHT, FiGHT!! ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/32 "2013-08-28T11:03:53Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Really? You’re threatening me? Wow. No, what he’s saying is that the admins might now enforce the policy Ed mentioned in the post linked to, and if so, all guests will lose any signatures in their profile. Last time that happened guests lost the text of their sigs, so back up now just in case. Do you want to remind the mods to give the class homework, too? 😃 Although, I like the idea of a breaking bad **samclem** taking out signatures… ---
**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/33 "2013-08-28T11:50:02Z")
Hello, My name Is Inigo Montoya, you killed my signature, prepare to die 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/34 "2013-08-28T11:55:41Z")
> [@Zyanthia](#): > > Hello, My name Is Inigo Montoya, you killed my signature, prepare to die 😛 That would make a great sig. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/35 "2013-08-28T12:19:28Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > It will make me laugh if the ultimate result of this thread is Oakminster getting signatures disabled for all the guests on the board, including himself. “ **Shodan** sends his regards!” _\_ ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/36 "2013-08-28T13:18:25Z")
I can’t decide what’s making me laugh more: **samclem** responding to a guest with an automatic signature by saying that guests are unable to have automatic signatures, or **Oakminster** pulling a Yosemite Sam routine (“is that a… is that a threat! Why you… I never… ooooOOOOOOH!!!”). ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/37 "2013-08-28T13:24:18Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I can’t decide what’s making me laugh more: **samclem** responding to a guest with an automatic signature by saying that guests are unable to have automatic signatures, or **Oakminster** pulling a Yosemite Sam routine (“is that a… is that a threat! Why you… I never… ooooOOOOOOH!!!”). Why choose? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/38 "2013-08-28T13:35:17Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > So you don’t know if the switch \*\*Ed Zotti \*\*used actually exists? > > And that threat you made about deleting my signature wasn’t really a threat. You were just being helpful. Right. You need to get a grip. Good gods. ---
**Author:** ![Suil\_Dubh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Suil\_Dubh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suil_Dubh)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/39 "2013-08-28T14:00:53Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > I can’t be the only one here wondering what the hell this has to do with moderators favouring liberals. LikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLikeLike ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/40 "2013-08-28T14:16:43Z")
> [@Zyanthia](#): > > Hello, My name Is Inigo Montoya, you killed my signature, prepare to die 😛 > [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > That would make a great sig. Except he changed his sign-on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349.md?page=3)