# Samclem, you're wrong

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [August 27, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349 "2013-08-27T23:58:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/61 "2013-08-28T19:51:38Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> Yeah, you look nice.

I’m not going to lie to you, I spent some time in the quarry when I read that.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/62 "2013-08-28T20:05:25Z")

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I rarely use my signature, but this seems an appropriate thread for it.

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**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/63 "2013-08-28T20:19:05Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> I’m not going to lie to you, I spent some time in the quarry when I read that.

Me too. I like this thread.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/64 "2013-08-28T21:12:30Z")

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I can’t write down my Sig. It’s in German and I don’t speak German.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/65 "2013-08-28T21:39:37Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> I can’t write down my Sig. It’s in German and I don’t speak German.

[That’s all right. I know a little German. He’s sitting right over there!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L0lJyDCLYTE#t=10)

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/66 "2013-08-28T22:14:27Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> I can’t write down my Sig. It’s in German and I don’t speak German.

Well google says your sig says, “Drive only with closed roof”. So you can just try to remember that. 'Tis a wise sig indeed.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/67 "2013-08-28T23:18:14Z")

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In Mother Russia, Signatures eliminate Moderators.

😃  
If you want to kiss the sky you’d better learn how to kneel.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/68 "2013-08-28T23:25:51Z")

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I’m just bugged that we’re no longer allowed to use colored text in our sigs.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/69 "2013-08-28T23:32:45Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> As near as I can tell, Oakminister has no problem with signatures being a pay perk.

Thats probably next weeks thread.

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**Author:** ![Tammi\_Terrell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Tammi\_Terrell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tammi_Terrell)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/70 "2013-08-29T01:19:54Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Although, I like the idea of a breaking bad **samclem** taking out signatures…

\<Hector Salamanca\> Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! \</Hector Salamanca\>

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/71 "2013-08-29T01:33:41Z")

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When I saw the thread title and the OP I thought, “This is gonna be fun.” And I was right!

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/72 "2013-08-29T02:43:02Z")

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> [@Tammi\_Terrell](#):
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> \<Hector Salamanca\> Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! \</Hector Salamanca\>

Tio!

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/73 "2013-08-29T09:46:27Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Wow.
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> No, what he’s saying is that the admins might now enforce the policy Ed mentioned in the post linked to, and if so, all guests will lose any signatures in their profile. Last time that happened guests lost the text of their sigs, so back up now just in case.

Which. Would. Be. A. Threat. He just said he’s lobbying to get signatures removed. **Oakminster** may be annoying, but he does usually have a good read on what the mods think of him.

And, for the same reason everyone else would be happy to see it happen, it would be a jerkish move to remove guest signatures because of this. **Oakminster** should not have to pay for bringing up the topic. And other guests should definitely not have to pay for it.

Guest signatures have been enabled for a while. Like it or not, you already made a decision, and people have been using that decision. If it was so unimportant that you didn’t bother checking, there’s no reason it should suddenly become important again.

You can’t even say that **Oakminster** just brought it to your attention, since you’ve repeatedly responded to guest posts that have automatic signatures. If it were important to you, you would have noticed. It’s not like manual and automatic signatures look the same.

And, save for the time when my keyboard broke and I had to type with a mouse, I don’t really use my signature. It’s not a personal thing. No one is going to pay for the right to use a signature. So disabling it is just a slight towards guests.

Oh, and save the insults about me taking this seriously or daring to defend **Oakminster**. And, if you disagree, try for once to come up with something besides calling it stupid.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/74 "2013-08-29T10:39:44Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> It’s not like manual and automatic signatures look the same.

Huh? They don’t? What are you going on about now?

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/75 "2013-08-29T10:54:10Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And other guests should definitely not have to pay for it

Great, another thing that guests don’t have to pay for.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/76 "2013-08-29T10:58:39Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Huh? They don’t? What are you going on about now?

Personally, I’ve always found the manual signature to be far more annoying.  
Take care,

**armedmonkey**

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/77 "2013-08-29T11:12:34Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Which. Would. Be. A. Threat. He just said he’s lobbying to get signatures removed. **Oakminster** may be annoying, but he does usually have a good read on what the mods think of him.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/78 "2013-08-29T11:18:44Z")

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I would like to say, though, that I do think **samclem** is in the wrong here. It there is a built in functionality for guests to use, that _is_ a tacit permission to use that functionality. **saclem** is out of line.

However, though he could have handled it better, he didn’t exactly bring the hammer down. This wasn’t a warning or even a mod note. Though slightly rude, tempest in a teapot, etc, etc.

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**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/79 "2013-08-29T12:26:54Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> That’s a custom title.

Ignorance fought. 🆒

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/80 "2013-08-29T12:31:55Z")

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> [@JBDivmstr](#):
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> Ignorance fought. 🆒

I think that’s a bad example of ignorance being fought.

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