# Samclem, you're wrong

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349>\
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**Created:** [August 27, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349 "2013-08-27T23:58:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/101 "2013-08-29T20:06:04Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> As I said, I’ll let you know what the decision of the admins of the Board is when I can.

Unacceptable. I don’t do things to your schedule, you must tell us _now!_

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/102 "2013-08-29T20:20:57Z")

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> [@Kzbre5m](#):
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> Personally, I make a copy of everything before I delete it.

I knew I was doing something wrong. Copy first. Then delete. Got it.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/103 "2013-08-29T20:29:37Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> I knew I was doing something wrong. Copy first. Then delete. Got it.

My husband learned this the hard way: tuck, THEN zip.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/104 "2013-08-29T20:35:10Z")

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Oooooh ok. That makes sense. Tuck, then zip and THEN shake. Gotcha.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/105 "2013-08-29T20:50:58Z")

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Tuck, Zip, Shake, Rattle and Roll!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/106 "2013-08-29T21:28:03Z")

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So, **Samclem** is one of the top ten moderators, right? Where is the upside to whining (whingeing? In the UK) about his moderation?

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/107 "2013-08-29T21:32:00Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> So, **Samclem** is one of the top ten moderators, right? Where is the upside to whining (whingeing? In the UK) about his moderation?

There’s more than ten moderators?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/108 "2013-08-29T21:59:56Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
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> There’s more than ten moderators?

Shhh. Be cool.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/109 "2013-08-30T00:13:31Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Unacceptable. I don’t do things to your schedule, you must tell us _now!_

Furthermore, if this issue is handled to my satisfaction immediately, then I will stop using the signature feature in protest.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/110 "2013-08-30T02:10:29Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> The Newbie in question posted a link in his signature. That is against the rules. I was wrong to tell him that guests couldn’t post signatures.
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> I don’t think I’m incorrect about guests not being allowed to have automatic signatures enabled. I don’t think that the Board Administration has done anything to remove it as a permission from the guest user group. I think that’s the crux of the issue here.
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> As I said, I’ll let you know what the decision of the admins of the Board is when I can.

> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Well?

I sent this to the email loop. **Ed Zotti** is the final arbiter(He’s the guy that flushed the sigs of all guests back in 2010).  
It’s Labor Day Weekend here in the US. I think that’s slowing down the process.

If I had anything more I’d tell you.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/111 "2013-08-30T02:16:34Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> So, **Samclem** is one of the top ten moderators, right? Where is the upside to whining (whingeing? In the UK) about his moderation?

> [@armedmonkey](#):
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> There’s more than ten moderators?

18 currently. Soon to be 21.

Saying I’m in the top 10 is like saying “for a fat guy you don’t sweat much.”

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/112 "2013-08-30T02:18:40Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> I sent this to the email loop. **Ed Zotti** is the final arbiter(He’s the guy that flushed the sigs of all guests back in 2010).  
> It’s Labor Day Weekend here in the US. I think that’s slowing down the process.
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> If I had anything more I’d tell you.

You won’t forget to give us homework over the weekend, though. Right?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/113 "2013-08-30T02:59:33Z")

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Nevermind

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/114 "2013-08-30T03:17:04Z")

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test

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/115 "2013-08-30T10:53:53Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Nevermind

Jamie?

Sock reported.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/116 "2013-08-30T15:08:55Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Jamie?
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> Sock reported.

No, that’d be “nm”

But you did make me laugh!

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/117 "2013-08-30T16:24:16Z")

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So if a guest is screwing around in his profile, he is allowed to post an automatic signature, but he should also peruse the adhesion contract to see in the fine print that he’s not allowed to use that feature?

Just disable the fucking thing in the software. Problem solved.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/118 "2013-08-30T19:55:45Z")

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Just checking to see if I still have access to my ill-gotten signature.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/119 "2013-08-30T21:01:19Z")

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I can see no possible reason why someone should use a sig.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samclem-youre-wrong/667349/120 "2013-08-30T22:29:04Z")

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I think the obvious solution is to pursue payment for use of signatures without permission from all the guests who’ve been doing it for years.

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