# Same old nonsense **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 7, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297 "2013-01-07T00:34:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/61 "2013-01-08T01:43:00Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Dopers are the elite now?! The trolls should really get together and decide if we are the smartest, hippest people on the planet or not. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/62 "2013-01-08T01:53:48Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Dopers are the elite now?! Very Orwellian of him to turn ‘elite’ into an insult. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/63 "2013-01-08T02:20:32Z")
> [@Linguini](#): > > Obama is not god, although you worship him as if he were. I think you mean _Oprah_. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/64 "2013-01-08T02:59:29Z")
**Linguini** , I will pray for you. Obama loves you, and wants to forgive you if you will let Him into your heart. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/65 "2013-01-08T04:23:18Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Very Orwellian of him to turn ‘elite’ into an insult. Orwellian, but by no means novel. Sadly. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/66 "2013-01-08T04:36:58Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Dopers are the elite now?! Standards have plummeted it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/67 "2013-01-08T06:33:26Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Standards have plummeted it seems. Sweet - I get to be part of an elite. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/68 "2013-01-08T06:36:18Z")
We are an _information_ elite, much superior to an economic elite. Either that, or its a ploy by the ruling class to evade our attention so we don’t string them up. Futile, really, that only works on people who are stupid and easily…oooh! Grumpy kitties! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/69 "2013-01-08T06:44:32Z")
I’m glad the OP was kind enough to title his post “Same old nonsense”, though two sentences in it was rather apparent. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/70 "2013-01-08T07:07:15Z")
But think about it- if the GOP succeeds in ‘starving the beast’, and Medicare and SS are destroyed, won’t we have all kinds of old and sick people weeping and gnashing their teeth, rending their garments and then dying in the streets? Won’t that then make the GOP the real beast? Especially if all this is done to fund the conquest of Iran, to turn them all into a bunch of GOP-loving real 'mericans- wouldn’t that kind of be same shit, different century? Oh, save us, Obamassiah!!! /giggles libtardedly like schoolgirl ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/71 "2013-01-08T14:52:00Z")
> [@Robb](#): > > Sweet - I get to be part of an elite. It’s a treat to be elite in the Mississippi mud … ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/72 "2013-01-08T15:06:50Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > It is the hallmark of the modern angry and intentionally misinformed “Conservative” to label anyone who disagrees them as some form of the word “Liberal”, usually deliberately misspelled in some form of insult; regardless of the actual politics of the person to whom they refer. > > For my part, I don’t tend to pay much attention to people whose level of civil discourse is limited to third grade insults. So in other words, you’re rubber and he’s glue? 😃 > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Verily, OP, I come unto you to share a message from the people of the internet. We name you brother and find your stories cool. And so also would like to inquire if our new brother is angered or in any way vexed. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/73 "2013-01-08T18:59:39Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Orwellian, but by no means novel. Sadly. Orwellian in the sense Orwell would have opposed the notion that the people require governance by more competent masters? In fact, liberalism was historically antithetical to elitism - remember the slogan “Liberté, égalité, fraternité”? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297/74 "2013-01-08T19:30:15Z")
Dear Obama! I mean really Oamadammit! We do not worship at the feet of Obama, Good Obama! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-old-nonsense/646297.md?page=3)