# Same problems in Australia **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 8, 2014, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246 "2014-01-08T04:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/41 "2014-01-08T16:48:08Z")
> [@FosterFoskin](#): > > We want to bring in a whole new Constitution, one written by Aussies for Australia. I found this in the synopsis: > [@](#): > > In the justice system, judges are trained as judges from an early age and follow a career path separate from that of lawyers and barristers. Cases before the courts are conducted by judges who have the power to direct investigations, call witnesses and conduct cross-examinations. The primary concern of judges is to ascertain the truth and to administer justice. The letter of the law is a secondary consideration. Didn’t Sylvester Stallone already make a movie of this? In the proposed Constitution proper there’s a section on Mass Media Obligations that’s also a hoot. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/42 "2014-01-08T16:55:59Z")
> [@FosterFoskin](#): > > Instead of being dictated to by political parties, we think it’s time We the People have the power to decide the kind of government WE want. Why can’t you do this through the structure of the political parties? You know, by like running candidates and stuff? My guess is 99% of Australians think you and your ilk are disgusting cretins and therefore you have no hope of gaining any traction within the current structure, so hey, let’s just blow up the paradigm! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/43 "2014-01-08T17:01:28Z")
> [@FosterFoskin](#): > > And why don’t you try reading our Draft Constitution For the same reason I don’t taste-test foul-smelling moldy stuff I find at the back of the fridge before throwing it out. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/44 "2014-01-08T17:03:47Z")
> [@FosterFoskin](#): > > The problem for stupid people is that they are too stupid to know they are stupid. Words of wisdom worthy of being engraved into the surface of your bathroom mirror. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/45 "2014-01-08T17:05:33Z")
> [@FosterFoskin](#): > > If you don’t know anything about is why bother replying? … Probably because that poster is from Japan and would like to bring additional perspective about similar phenomena in other countries. > [@penultima\_thule](#): > > … Xenophobic, homophobic, anti-semantic agrarian socialist fruit bats… Uh-huh, yup, yes, ok, yeah — HEY! I [like](http://gogreentravelgreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bat-edited.jpg)fruit [bats](http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liojqaJ14s1qaw513o1_400.jpg)! > [@Smeghead](#): > > I believe - perhaps controversially in some quarters - that Obama is a member of the species Homo sapiens, and is therefore part of the Kingdom Animalia. For evidence, I offer his well-documented ability to move and eat. Further, I would suggest that his relatively dark skin tone is less than optimal for photosynthesizing, which is generally considered a fairly fundamental defining characteristic of Kingdom Plantae. > > As to his religion, lacking any primary evidence, I can only suggest that, to the best of my knowledge, no leading Islamic scholar has proposed that the tenets of Islam should be applied to nonsentient sessile vegetative growth, making the idea of a Muslim plant rather problematic. But I could be wrong. > > Also, you’re a twat. OMG. This post is - pardon the already-tired phrase - full of win. Bravo, **Smeghead** , bravo. > [@kayaker](#): > > Yep, the mod who does this will get plenty of tips. And beer. And ice cream. And home-grown tomatoes. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/46 "2014-01-08T17:06:43Z")
The draft Constitution can’t even seem to figure out what the name of the country is. IT’s referred to as “The Sovereign Country of Australia,” and then later as “The Commonwealth of Australia.” When you get into the guts of it, it seems it’s called either “the Territory of Australia” or just “Australia.” It also claims as Australian territory an effectively infinite amount of outer space (see section 1.2 m) which is both a violation of international law and fucking insane. In more ways than I can count the draft Constitution is unclear and self-contradictory, or includes weird editorial asides. It makes a variety of statement that, the way they are written, would result in ridiculous law; one part, for instance, makes it illegal to use a gas barbeque. On Page 40 it appears to be illegal to have sex with someone you aren’t in love with. Who was the idiot who wrote this shit? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/47 "2014-01-08T17:07:00Z")
> [@FosterFoskin](#): > > But if you open your eyes and start doing some research you will see why I, and so many other Aussies, are worried I recommend the classic tome [_Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds), which provides a number of case histories to provide insight as to why people get themselves worked up over nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/48 "2014-01-08T17:07:35Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > 1. to bring back into existence, use, or the like. > > 2. to bring back to a former, original, or normal condition. > > 3. to bring back to a state of health, soundness, or vigor. > > 4. to put back to a former place, or to a former position, rank, etc.: to restore the king to his throne. > > 5. _to give back; make return or restitution of (anything taken away or lost)._ > > Oh, you want to give it back to the aborigines? Cool! I say replace the prime minister with an elected warden, who must personally approve anything that happens within the country’s borders. Special dispensation to anyone who can prove at least ¼ aboriginie blood. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/49 "2014-01-08T17:10:11Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Do you think he’s an Aussie “plant”? I dunno. I always sort of assumed that Aussie plants resembled the rest of the Aussie biosphere, and thus consisted primarily of species that shoot poison thorns at people (like in that one Star Trek episode). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/50 "2014-01-08T17:14:45Z")
Well, the OP is off(in more ways than one). Perhaps if we are lucky it’ll be another 7 years before he pops back up with another Screed O’ Hate. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/51 "2014-01-08T17:17:40Z")
The Mods may need to take a look at this one and some others… I think Mel Gibson (or his dad) may have [a few sock puppet accounts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16996030&postcount=477) that got dislodged by the SDMB hacked emails. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/52 "2014-01-08T17:23:56Z")
I saw the other one and just assumed that it was National Idiot Day in Australia or something. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/53 "2014-01-08T17:30:05Z")
> [@FosterFoskin](#): > > We need a whole new system, and that’s what RestoreAustralia is working towards. We want to bring in a whole new Constitution, one written by Aussies for Australia. [/LIST] How do you restore something by bringing in a whole new system? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/54 "2014-01-08T17:32:03Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I saw the other one and just assumed that it was National Idiot Day in Australia or something. Under the proposed constitution, every day is National Idiot Day. Many posts have left me wondering how the writer managed to survive to adulthood. The question of how some people survive to adulthood _in Australia_ raises that to a whole new level. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/55 "2014-01-08T17:32:32Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Registered in 2007, didn’t post anything until now. That’s commitment. or a vBulletin bug. Some banned guy in CafeSociety, who went berserk in the David Blaine tv thread, had the same deal. I’m guessing either a join date bug, or hakkerz. Also, FosterForkin is a cunt. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/56 "2014-01-08T17:40:35Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Also, FosterForkin is a cunt. [Moderating] Don’t call other posters cunts. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/57 "2014-01-08T17:40:36Z")
> [@FosterFoskin](#): > > Like the US, we are faced with so many political problems that most people have thrown their hands up in the air and decided to ignore everything. > > But we can’t afford to do that. Islam has declared war on us. I stopped reading here. I feel I can comfortably tell the OP that either the solutions he proposes or the problems he sees are those of a lunatic. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/58 "2014-01-08T17:58:00Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The draft Constitution can’t even seem to figure out what the name of the country is. IT’s referred to as “The Sovereign Country of Australia,” and then later as “The Commonwealth of Australia.” When you get into the guts of it, it seems it’s called either “the Territory of Australia” or just “Australia.” It also claims as Australian territory an effectively infinite amount of outer space (see section 1.2 m) which is both a violation of international law and fucking insane. I have this image of a bunch of miners in spacesuits on the moon, and they’re looking at their watches. As soon as they pass over Australian territory they start digging wildly. I also like how they’re attempting to replace the Constitution, and one of the provisions in it specifies that new citizens promise never to replace the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/59 "2014-01-08T18:25:34Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > Don’t call other posters cunts. > > No warning issued. > [/Moderating] Oops. I get close to the warning line so seldom I forget which words are verboten. Sorry. In fact, one day I’d like to get a warning. I’ve been here 14 years, and people are starting to talk. But I dislike what \*\*FosterFoskin \*\*says and thinks _in the strongest possible terms._ ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-problems-in-australia/678246/60 "2014-01-08T18:29:41Z")
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