# Same-sex marriage: and Manitoba makes five! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 16, 2004, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713 "2004-09-16T17:28:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/1 "2004-09-16T17:28:34Z")
\CBC\: > [@](#): > > WINNIPEG - Manitoba has become the fourth province to legalize same-sex marriage, following the paths of Quebec, Ontario and British Columbia. > > Justice Douglas Yard, ruling in the Court of Queen’s Bench, declared Thursday that the current definition of marriage is unconstitutional. … > > The case marks the first time federal lawyers did not try to fight a same-sex lawsuit. Provincial lawyers also did not oppose the case. All I need is New Brunswick for all the places I’ve lived to have SSM now. w00t! :mad: 🆒🙂😛 :eek: 😕 ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/2 "2004-09-16T17:32:53Z")
Sorry, [fixed link.](http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/09/16/manitobasamesex040916.html) BTW, looks like the next one [might be in Nova Scotia](http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/08/081504nsMarr.htm). ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/3 "2004-09-17T01:06:09Z")
Congrats Matt!!! I think it’s time to emigrate northwardly for me if this keeps up! ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/4 "2004-09-16T21:27:35Z")
… or maybe Matt should move south … Hey! I can’t post! No fair saying I can’t post more often than once every 60 seconds if you won’t let me post at _all!_ It’s like I’m stuck in a badly-written Star Trek episode! Somebody push the time-travel reset button so I can post. Ah. That’s much better. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/5 "2004-09-16T21:30:07Z")
… umm, on preview, **st. pauler** ’s post was already there, so my post makes a lot more sense… on several levels… ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/6 "2004-09-16T21:40:27Z")
I think the SDMB has done the Time Warp. It’s just a jump to the left you know. Too bad we can’t forward the US to be a little closer to what’s going on in Canada. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/7 "2004-09-16T21:41:45Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > Congrats Matt!!! I think it’s time to emigrate northwardly for me if this keeps up! Oh, now I’m posting before I originally posted. I’m my own father. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/8 "2004-09-16T23:33:02Z")
(WTF??) **stpauler** : Kew. Canada can always use a few more cute gay guys. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/9 "2004-09-16T23:53:57Z")
Maybe even Topeka Kansas, home base of Fred Phelps, is making progress. Check out this article from today’s newspaper! [http://www.cjonline.com/stories/091604/loc\_newcouncilwoman.shtml](http://www.cjonline.com/stories/091604/loc_newcouncilwoman.shtml) I attended the meeting, and I thought “No way, they won’t select her” But then I got a happy surprise, they did! As the article also says, Muller was a driving force behind the sadly failed attempt to add orientation to the list of things protected by the city’s anti-discrimination code. And apparently she’s going to give it another go. If only those that voted for her will stand firm, it could be done. But my inner cynic is thinking that some will chicken out. You wouldn’t believe how organized the opponents of the change were. Of course Phreddy already has two ugly fliers out, one calling for Muller’s resignation, and the other is an openly racist screed against the mayor, calling him, among other things, “little black Jimbo” Mind you, I don’t like the mayor myself, but it’s not based on his race. Sorry for the hijack, I just wanted to crow about even a smidgen of progress in my hometown. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/10 "2004-09-17T00:03:35Z")
From the [_Globe and Mail_](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040916.wmani0916/BNStory/National/): > [@](#): > > The province’s first legal same-sex wedding, that of [Laura] Fouhse and [Jordan] Cantwell, is scheduled for Saturday. > > “Words cannot express how much this means to us as a family. Now our daughter will grow up knowing that her family is recognized and valued like those of her friends,” Ms. Cantwell said. > > Her daughter, Hope, 6, said she was excited. “I really want my moms to be able to get married.” ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/11 "2004-09-17T00:08:21Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > Congrats Matt!!! I think it’s time to emigrate northwardly for me if this keeps up! Well, your **post** saying so keeps migrating southwardly! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/12 "2004-09-17T00:57:19Z")
I’ve said it before… I don’t understand why every gay man and woman in America doesn’t just pack up and move north. Sure, the winters might be harder but at least y’all would be accepted better than the shameful way you’re treated in the US. Congrats, Matt! Here’s hoping for a sweep! ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/13 "2004-09-17T01:15:00Z")
So when are you figuring Alberta’s gonna fold? Heh… ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/14 "2004-09-17T01:38:39Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > I’ve said it before… > > I don’t understand why every gay man and woman in America doesn’t just pack up and move north. I get the impression that’s a very popular sentiment in America, unfortunately. And yes, I totally get your point, **Jonathan** , and that’s not what you were saying, but I was just trying to be pithy. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/15 "2004-09-17T01:49:35Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > I’ve said it before… > > I don’t understand why every gay man and woman in America doesn’t just pack up and move north. Sure, the winters might be harder but at least y’all would be accepted better than the shameful way you’re treated in the US. Actually, after seeing _Bowling for Columbine_ all the way through this past wednesday, I’m considering it. What sort of demand is there for (when I finish with this, anyway) a mathsci-concentration grade school teacher? I’m also rustily bilingual. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/16 "2004-09-17T02:53:01Z")
Any reason why your title says “And Manitoba makes five” when your link says it’s the fourth province, **matt**? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/17 "2004-09-17T03:21:21Z")
> [@Governor Quinn](#): > > Any reason why your title says “And Manitoba makes five” when your link says it’s the fourth province, **matt**? Because Manitoba is the fifth jurisdiction to have legal same sex marriage. The fourth was the Yukon (a territory, not a province). ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-and-manitoba-makes-five/264713/18 "2004-09-17T03:24:27Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Because Manitoba is the fifth jurisdiction to have legal same sex marriage. The fourth was the Yukon (a territory, not a province). Thank you. I was unaware that the Yukon had legalized same-sex marriage.