# Same sex marriage bans go down in ID and NV **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 7, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686 "2014-10-07T20:55:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/1 "2014-10-07T20:55:00Z")
The 9th circuit ruled in the ID and NV cases, striking down their same sex marriage bans. Getting to all 50 a LOT faster than I would ever have expected. ---
**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/2 "2014-10-07T21:57:21Z")
This means the bans in Alaska, Arizona and Montana will also presumably go soon, since an appeal to the Supreme Court would be futile in light of recent events. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/3 "2014-10-07T22:58:03Z")
Colorado as well, by the state supreme court. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/4 "2014-10-08T00:45:29Z")
[Recently nailed by this myself] The title is ambiguous-“go down” could be misconstrued as “go into effect”… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/5 "2014-10-08T02:35:55Z")
I read (somewhere) that because all circuit courts who have heard cases objecting to SSM and struck them down, that this is the reason the SCOTUS did not take up the issue. If there was dissension among these courts, well … ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/6 "2014-10-08T02:45:55Z")
Ok, struck down. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/7 "2014-10-08T17:29:34Z")
[Kennedy issued a stay](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GAY_MARRIAGE_VEGAS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-08-12-56-21). What’s curious is that Idaho asked for the stay but Kennedy appears to have included Nevada in his order. AG Cortez-Mateo is seeking clarification, but as of now no marriage licenses are being issued to gay couples in Nevada. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/8 "2014-10-08T18:30:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Kennedy issued a stay](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GAY_MARRIAGE_VEGAS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-08-12-56-21). > > What’s curious is that Idaho asked for the stay but Kennedy appears to have included Nevada in his order. AG Cortez-Mateo is seeking clarification, but as of now no marriage licenses are being issued to gay couples in Nevada. [Order of the Supreme Court](http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders%5C100814zr.pdf) The cases specifically stayed are: Sevcik v. Sandoval (12-17668), which is in Nevada Latta v. Otter (14-35420 & 14-35421 - not sure why there are two of them; Latta is the plaintiff in both cases), which are in Idaho Note that Idaho’s and Nevada’s laws went beyond simply banning same-sex marriage; they stated that same-sex marriages in other states would not be recognized. I think that both states are included because [Tuesday’s Ninth Circuit ruling](http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/general/2014/10/07/summary_%20Latta_Sevcik.pdf) applies to the cases in both states. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/9 "2014-10-08T20:30:47Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > [Recently nailed by this myself] > > The title is ambiguous-“go down” could be misconstrued as “go into effect”… I attach an entirely different meaning to “go down.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/10 "2014-10-08T21:26:20Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > [Order of the Supreme Court](http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders%5C100814zr.pdf) > > The cases specifically stayed are: > > Sevcik v. Sandoval (12-17668), which is in Nevada > > Latta v. Otter (14-35420 & 14-35421 - not sure why there are two of them; Latta is the plaintiff in both cases), which are in Idaho > > Note that Idaho’s and Nevada’s laws went beyond simply banning same-sex marriage; they stated that same-sex marriages in other states would not be recognized. > > I think that both states are included because [Tuesday’s Ninth Circuit ruling](http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/general/2014/10/07/summary_%20Latta_Sevcik.pdf) applies to the cases in both states. Aye, I knew all that. But my Gov. and AG both had stated publicly that they would no longer fight to preserve the Nevada amendment, so it was curious that Kennedy would include Nevada in the stay. [He’s since corrected his error](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUPREME_COURT_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-08-15-51-39). ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/11 "2014-10-08T23:18:22Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > I attach an entirely different meaning to “go down.” Is that you, Elton John? ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-bans-go-down-in-id-and-nv/700686/12 "2014-10-09T01:46:20Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > [Order of the Supreme Court](http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders%5C100814zr.pdf) > > The cases specifically stayed are: > > Sevcik v. Sandoval (12-17668), which is in Nevada > > Latta v. Otter (14-35420 & 14-35421 - not sure why there are two of them; Latta is the plaintiff in both cases), which are in Idaho [“Oops - did I say Nevada?”: the Nevada stay was lifted by Kennedy later in the day](http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders%5C100814zr1.pdf)