# Same-sex marriage is coming to Hawaii

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-is-coming-to-hawaii/673760>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 12, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-is-coming-to-hawaii/673760 "2013-11-12T23:49:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-is-coming-to-hawaii/673760/41 "2013-11-14T16:12:53Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Depends on if Texas is still a State by the time the other 49 have SSM 🆒

Hey easy now. [It’s gonna be a toss up between Alabama and Mississippi!](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/10/nate-silver-sends-daily-show-find-last-gay-marriage-holdout-state/71081/) 😃 (Scroll down for video)

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-is-coming-to-hawaii/673760/42 "2013-11-14T16:15:59Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Do you guys have to do this in this thread?

No moderator tag on this question?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-is-coming-to-hawaii/673760/43 "2013-11-14T16:18:55Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> You know what. Two hundred years ago slavery sucked. But you know what would’ve sucked worse? Having some judge telling people in that state that slavery was illegal. That really would’ve sucked.

Yes, it would have.

As terrible an institution as slavery was, the way to abolish it was to pass a law: in our case, the Thirteenth Amendment. Having a judge declare, in the absence of any particular legal authority, that slavery was prohibited would have been a terrible precedent – great in the short term department, but fatal to the cause of having a nation that works by government of the people.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-is-coming-to-hawaii/673760/44 "2013-11-14T16:30:42Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> No moderator tag on this question?

No, merely a plea as a poster.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-is-coming-to-hawaii/673760/45 "2013-11-14T16:32:25Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Yes, it would have.
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> As terrible an institution as slavery was, the way to abolish it was to pass a law: in our case, the Thirteenth Amendment. Having a judge declare, in the absence of any particular legal authority, that slavery was prohibited would have been a terrible precedent – great in the short term department, but fatal to the cause of having a nation that works by government of the people.

I TOTALLLY agree. It’s insane that in our constitutional republic that all of the judges are still put in their positions because of birth decree or some watery tart distributing swords.

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**Author:** ![James\_Toothpaste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e56c9b/32.png) [@James\_Toothpaste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Toothpaste)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-sex-marriage-is-coming-to-hawaii/673760/46 "2013-11-14T22:11:32Z")

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I don’t know why anyone would be against same sex marriage.

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