# Same to you, Pat Robertson.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 23, 2005, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228 "2005-08-23T03:58:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/21 "2005-08-23T07:43:37Z")

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> [@Boo Boo Foo](#):
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> I always got the impression (all the way down here in the Land of Oz) that Pat Robertson was quite a nasty bit of work. Certainly, at the very least, all that “love thy brother” crap has shown him to be a thorough hypocrite.

It’d be easy to mock him if he was a looney that nobody cared about (\* a la\* Fred Phelps), but the fact that he has considerable influence with a good portion of the populace _and_ the current political leadership should make everyone go :eek:, if ya ask me.

And in a related vein, I recommend reading [“Soldiers of Christ II”](http://www.electric-escape.net/node/910) for more :eek:-level religious fundamentalist scariness. (Yes, I’m pimping my own site there 😉 ).

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/22 "2005-08-23T08:01:19Z")

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[Matthew 10:34](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=10&verse=34&version=31&context=verse)

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> Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

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**Author:** ![uglybeech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/82dd89/32.png) [@uglybeech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/uglybeech)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/23 "2005-08-23T09:24:26Z")

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Let me glom on to your rant:

Proof that God doesn’t exist: Pat Robertson keeps spouting evil on national t.v. like Linda Blair projectile-vomiting buckets of green puke and he has yet to be vaporized by a divine thunderbolt. You’d think even a deist God would somehow have worked it into the natural law that anyone like Pat would self-immolate before it ever got this far.

For two years this vicious little leprechaun has been praying for Supreme Court Justices to drop dead. Or - excuse me - he’s been praying for God to miraculously “change the Court” (can’t forget the thin veil). I’m only surprised that in this case he didn’t invoke the will of the almighty in calling for Chavez’s death. An oversight I can’t explain, except that perhaps his malformed and stunted conscience still whimpers in there somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/24 "2005-08-23T10:17:21Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> Think Bush will apologize, or the State Department will make any comments refuting Robertson? I doubt it.

Well, I doubt it too, but then I can’t think of a single reason why they should. Robertson is not Bush, nor is he part of the State Department, nor in fact is he an elected official at all. If Bush is going to be called upon to apologise for television personalities, then he can start with Tom Green.

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/25 "2005-08-23T10:48:58Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> [Matthew 10:34](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=10&verse=34&version=31&context=verse)
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> > Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Be fair, now. [Give the whole thing in context.](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010;&version=31;) That particular passage in the middle of Jesus’ instructions to his disciples when He sends them out on their own. He’s telling them to expect opposition. Pulling quotes out of context is one of Robertson’s tricks.

CJ

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**Author:** ![legalsnugs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@legalsnugs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/legalsnugs)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/26 "2005-08-23T12:30:43Z")

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> communist infiltration and Muslim extremism

And Mr. Robertson’s words are an excellent example of rampant capitalism and christian extremism.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/27 "2005-08-23T12:32:02Z")

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> [@Dead Badger](#):
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> If Bush is going to be called upon to apologise for television personalities, then he can start with Tom Green.

Oh, no. That’s Canada’s fault.

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> Hey, communism and Muslim extremism!!! The two together!

I heard that part on the radio this morning. My head hurt from the cognitive dissidence.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/28 "2005-08-23T12:49:49Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> [Here’s Pat, caught on tape](http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006). Scary. Think Bush will apologize, or the State Department will make any comments refuting Robertson? I doubt it.

You know how, whenever anyone on the left says anything that’s mildly over the line, everyone on the right starts hollering for all Democrats to disassociate themselves from that person, to demonstrate that they’re not condoning whatever that person’s excesses may have been?

I’ll be over here, waiting for those same guardians of public virtue to make the same calls for conservatives to disassociate themselves from Pat Robertson.

Yeh, riiiiiight. :rolleyes:  
My other thought about this is, we’ve got a great bumper sticker opportunity:

**Who Would Jesus Assassinate?**

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/29 "2005-08-23T13:00:48Z")

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I read this article in this morning’s Trib and was absolutely dumbfounded. I mean, people like Robertson and Falwell are supposed to at least give lip service to Christian values, right? But openly advocating the assassination of a foreign leader (democratically elected, mind you) exposes Robertson for the utter charlatan that he is. Surely some of his true believers have to be as offended by this statement as I am. Or am I being naive?

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/30 "2005-08-23T13:00:53Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Hey, communism and Muslim extremism!!! The two\* together\*!

I heard that they’re _gay_ as well.

Nuke them from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/31 "2005-08-23T13:04:55Z")

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I think Jesus would use ultra intelligent super enhanced trained military attack dogs like Sergeant Chip to rip their throats out.

“I am black as night. I am silent as air.”

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/32 "2005-08-23T13:25:39Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> Oh, no. That’s Canada’s fault.

And we’re not apologizing until the U.S. starts obeying NAFTA 😉

But Robertson? He’s been descending towards a Phelp-like level for a long time…

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/33 "2005-08-23T13:28:50Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Hey, communism and Muslim extremism!!! The two\* together\*!

Yeah that blew my mind.

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/34 "2005-08-23T13:39:39Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> You know how, whenever anyone on the left says anything that’s mildly over the line, everyone on the right starts hollering for all Democrats to disassociate themselves from that person, to demonstrate that they’re not condoning whatever that person’s excesses may have been?
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> I’ll be over here, waiting for those same guardians of public virtue to make the same calls for conservatives to disassociate themselves from Pat Robertson.
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> Yeh, riiiiiight. :rolleyes:

Wow, RT. You’re as much of an asshole as Pat Robertson is.

Does that count? 😉

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/35 "2005-08-23T13:39:40Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Hey, communism and Muslim extremism!!! The two\* together\*!

Two great baits that bait great together!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/36 "2005-08-23T13:53:11Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Two great baits that bait great together!

Fucking brilliant!

[sub]Excuse me, you’ve gotten some of your communism in my muslim extremism[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/37 "2005-08-23T13:57:27Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Jesus totally glocked Herod.

How much cooler would it had been had he called down an Army of Angels to rescue him from the cross and lay waste to the area.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/38 "2005-08-23T13:58:17Z")

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Y’all seem to forget that this is the pus bucket that prayed to God to divert a hurricane to wipe out a bunch of gay supporters.

The dude’s brain and heart jumped ship a long time ago.

A few years back I was watching his show (to scoff, mind you), and he was reading letters from fans. One young man wanted to know if it was OK to study martial arts. Pus Bucket’s response was (paraphrased), “You’re right, young man, martial arts have their roots in Buddhism, which is Satanism. By studying them, you are inviting Satan into your heart. If you really want to learn these things, learn them from a good Christian, like Chuck Norris.”

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/39 "2005-08-23T13:59:49Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> Surely this can’t be the same Pat Robertson that wants the Ten Commandments placed on government property.

Well, maybe the version he wanted to put up had an asterix.

Exodus 20:13 Thou Shalt Not Kill\*

\*except when another country has a resource we really want and/or has political tendencies we dislike.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/40 "2005-08-23T14:00:29Z")

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> [@Barbarian](#):
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> And we’re not apologizing until the U.S. starts obeying NAFTA 😉

You do realize that the recent dispute over softwood and the US refusal to comply with NAFTA rulings is not in the news here, at all?

Robertson is an idiot, but none of you need me to tell you that. However, while calling for Chavezs’ murder is beyond the realm, I do think that Chavez is more than just a “paranoid crackpot” as **fushj00mang** called him. He is, but I think that his continued provocation of Columbia by supporting FARK is going to lead to something very bad.

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