# Same to you, Pat Robertson. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 23, 2005, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228 "2005-08-23T03:58:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/41 "2005-08-23T14:08:42Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > How much cooler would it had been had he called down an Army of Angels to rescue him from the cross and lay waste to the area. It’s the only way to be sure. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/42 "2005-08-23T14:09:40Z")
Insert standard disclaimer about how Pat Robertson doesn’t speak for all Christians here. Feel better, **RTFirefly**? Yeah, me neither. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/43 "2005-08-23T14:41:09Z")
And here’s to you, Mr. Robertson, Jesus loves you less than you will know. God bless you, please, Mr. Robertson. Heaven holds a place for those who pray, Hey, hey, hey Standing at a pulpit on a Sunday afternoon. Calling for someone to assasinate. Pray about it, shout about it When you’ve got to choose Every way we look at this you lose. Koo-koo-ka-choo, Mr. Robertson… ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/44 "2005-08-23T14:53:02Z")
> [@adam yax](#): > > You do realize that the recent dispute over softwood and the US refusal to comply with NAFTA rulings is not in the news here, at all? Realize it? Hell, I WRITE the fucking news for a national U.S. network and I can’t convince my bosses that when the U.S. steals $5 billion from their closest trading partner that it’s a story. But the price of gas has gone up 6 cents this week. Oooohhh! [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/45 "2005-08-23T14:55:26Z")
Was there any basis to those stories I heard back when he was running for president that he bragged about how he had his daddy, a senator, pull some strings so he wouldn’t have to go into combat in Korea? Ah, [here we go:](http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/televangelists/pat-robertson/) > [@](#): > > There is a person who calls himself a combat Marine. He is not. His name is Pat Robertson. I saw him often in the division headquarters where he was clean-shaven and clothed and showered. He was in charge of making sure that the officers’ booze ration was handed out and re-supplied. He was a lieutenant. He was in my battalion. > The line company marines I saw smelled badly, looked poorly. For months at a time they were cold, eating C-rations. Trying to stay warm and dry was a constant battle. These line-company men were the combat Marines of the First Marine Division. Neither Pat Robertson nor I could carry their gear. > > He is trying to get elected by standing on those frozen bodies I saw, by putting himself in the company of those seven Marines who repulsed the enemy. Imagine a person who aspires to be President being so loose with the truth, so lacking in grace and so dishonorable. > > He says God talks to him. I’d like to hear what God says to him about this. [But wait, there’s more!](http://www.schlatter.org/liquor.htm) > [@](#): > > Revelations about Robertson’s war record also dogged his campaign. In his campaign literature Robertson claimed to be a combat veteran of the Korean War. In fact, he served three miles from the front in a headquarters function ferrying codes to Japan and never saw combat. > > Former GOP congressman Pete McCloskey of California, who served in the same unit as Robertson, claimed that Robertson had relied on his father’s influence to get him out of combat duty. Robertson was so rankled by the charge that he sued McCloskey and Representative Andy Jacobs, an Indiana Democrat who also circulated the charges, for $35 million. > > McCloskey insisted that Robertson was on a ship headed for combat until his father used his influence to have him removed. According to McCloskey, Robertson later boasted that he had used his father to “get him out of combat duty.” > > The libel suit turned out to be an embarrassment to Robertson. During depositions, Paul Brosman, Jr., a retired university professor who served with Robertson in Korea, backed up McCloskey’s claim and went even further, asserting that the televangelist had consorted with prostitutes and had sexually harassed a Korean cleaning girl who worked in the barracks. Brosman’s deposition asserted that Robertson once feared he had contracted gonorrhea from a prostitute and was “very relieved” when he discovered the problem was a urinary tract infection. Brosman added that he had never personally seen Robertson with a prostitute and said some of his remarks were based on “scuttlebutt” he heard from others. > > The trial also established that Robertson’s father did indeed send a number of letters about his son, on Senate stationery, to Marine officials. In one the elder Robertson expressed concern that his son had not been adequately trained to be a combat officer. I’m glad my memory hasn’t failed me yet. ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/46 "2005-08-23T15:12:08Z")
From an apropos thread on the Freep (!!!?): > [@](#): > > I take it that unlike Liberia there’s no diamond mines in Venezuela. Zing! (Aside: I don’t know why I always check out the Freep whenever one of these buckets of shit hits the fan. I guess I like to see what the excuse du jour is from the rabid-pit-bull-on-PCP crowd. I mean, other than the guy who posts a picture of a mushroom cloud in every thread. Needless to say, they’ve banned me probably a dozen times.) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/47 "2005-08-23T15:16:22Z")
Man, if the Freepers are zinging him, you KNOW ol’ Pat’s stepped right off the edge of the diving board. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/48 "2005-08-23T15:33:37Z")
I look forward to his retraction and eventual apology in a couple of days stating he was misunderstood or quoted out of context. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/49 "2005-08-23T15:40:33Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Two great baits that bait great together! Like peanut butter and chocolate or homosexuality and Satanism. > [@Pat Robertson](#): > > Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals – the two things seem to go together. Some of P-Rob’s comments on gays, feminists, “activist judges”, etc., [compiled here](http://casualobservervations.redstate.org/story/2005/8/23/10389/9807). I love the way Robertson guards his words (the lawyer in him, I guess): he never actually said we should kill Chavez, but “take him out”. If cornered he could always claim “I meant take him out to IHOP, get him some of those blintzes and a chocolate brownie Sundae and tell him about the word of Jesus”. He also never technically prayed for God to kill the SCotUS judges he didn’t like, but just suggested that what with cancer and other infirmities, wouldn’t it be nice if they weren’t there anymore? To me his comments on gays and killing judges and the like are as nothing compared to his African business dealings (things that would make Montgomery Burns blush) and his support of the Chinese “one child” legislation (coincidentally he has millions invested in China and wouldn’t want trouble with their government). Gotta love him. Well not really, but do wish somebody would take him out. (To Dairy Queen, I mean.) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/50 "2005-08-23T15:40:46Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > Realize it? Hell, I WRITE the fucking news for a national U.S. network and I can’t convince my bosses that when the U.S. steals $5 billion from their closest trading partner that it’s a story. But the price of gas has gone up 6 cents this week. Oooohhh! > > [/hijack] I would have thought that you were Canadian for even bringing it up. Who do you write for? ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/51 "2005-08-23T15:43:41Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > And here’s to you, Mr. Robertson, > Jesus loves you less than you will know. > God bless you, please, Mr. Robertson. > Heaven holds a place for those who pray, > Hey, hey, hey > > Standing at a pulpit on a Sunday afternoon. > Calling for someone to assasinate. > Pray about it, shout about it > When you’ve got to choose > Every way we look at this you lose. > > Koo-koo-ka-choo, Mr. Robertson… _applauds_ ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Side_of_the_Floyd)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/52 "2005-08-23T15:44:05Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > And here’s to you, Mr. Robertson, > Jesus loves you less than you will know. > God bless you, please, Mr. Robertson. > Heaven holds a place for those who pray, > Hey, hey, hey > > Standing at a pulpit on a Sunday afternoon. > Calling for someone to assasinate. > Pray about it, shout about it > When you’ve got to choose > Every way we look at this you lose. > > Koo-koo-ka-choo, Mr. Robertson… I’m just thinking about how we can get Simon and Garfunkel to sing this. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/53 "2005-08-23T15:44:29Z")
Pat also said God told him Bush would win reelection in a cake walk instead of a squeaker, which prompted even Cal Thomas to call him a loon. If Cal Thomas thinks you’re a nut, you better start keeping an eye on the squirrels, 'cause you ain’t safe. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/54 "2005-08-23T15:45:04Z")
Come to think of it, has anybody ever seen Montgomery Burns and Pat Robertson _together_? There’s some difference in hair, but that could be managed with a toupee. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/55 "2005-08-23T15:45:50Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > He also never technically prayed for God to kill the SCotUS judges he didn’t like, but just suggested that what with cancer and other infirmities, wouldn’t it be nice if they weren’t there anymore? “Who will rid me of this meddlesome judge?” - King Marion II of Virginia Beach (a true son-of-va-beach if there ever was one) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/56 "2005-08-23T15:48:54Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Pat also said God told him Bush would win reelection in a cake walk instead of a squeaker, which prompted even Cal Thomas to call him a loon. If Cal Thomas thinks you’re a nut, you better start keeping an eye on the squirrels, 'cause you ain’t safe. Well in fairness, the Bible says that if a man speaks a prophecy that God gave him and it does not come to pass, forgive and forget because it just means that God changed His mind. What’s that? Oh… [my bad](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deuteronomy%2018:%2020-22&version=31). ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/57 "2005-08-23T15:50:27Z")
Of course my real hatred and disgust and contempt isn’t for Pat (a crazy old hypocrite) half so much as for the people who still send him money and listen to what he has to say as if he really is a man of God. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/58 "2005-08-23T16:03:12Z")
> [@wolf\_meister](#): > > **Danalan** > Since you mentioned hypocrisy, I get incredibly disgusted by this Bible thumping shithead who is so quick to condemn Godless science, yet is so eager to embrace its innovations (television, computers, etc). If that pisses you off, good thing you don’t have to drive past his Campus (Regent University, formerly known as CBN University) like I do. Hell, the city of Virginia Beach is working on getting him his own exit off the interstate. And I would like to apologize to the rest of the world for this fucktard, seeing as I’m a neighbor (more or less) of his. But no one asked me if we should let him live here, so that’s the only thing I got in my defense. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/59 "2005-08-23T16:03:20Z")
> [@DarkSideoftheFloyd](#): > > I’m just thinking about how we can get Simon and Garfunkel to sing this. Or at least the Capitol Steps. Hide behind the First Amendment you think should have never been. Use donations for equipment for your diamond mines. It’s a little blasphemy just the Robertsons’ affair. Most of all you’ve got to wave that Bible high. CHORUS Where have you gone, Savanarola, The Fundies would turn deluded eyes to you. What’s that you say, Mr. Robertson. Girolamo didn’t own a TV station in his day. Hey hey hey. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/60 "2005-08-23T16:10:36Z")
> [@Sean Factotum](#): > > If that pisses you off, good thing you don’t have to drive past his Campus (Regent University, formerly known as CBN University) like I do. Hell, the city of Virginia Beach is working on getting him his own exit off the interstate. I’m all for giving him an exit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228.md?page=4)