# Same to you, Pat Robertson.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 23, 2005, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228 "2005-08-23T03:58:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/121 "2005-08-24T13:18:20Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> How are the 144,000 chosen? Is there a ranking? Is it by lot?

You missed the website [AmISaved.com](http://AmISaved.com)?

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/122 "2005-08-24T13:35:44Z")

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**Originally posted by State Department**  
“His comments are inappropriate,” he said. “Allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless and without fact.”

Ouch!!! You guys really ripped Robertson a new one there, didn’t you? “Inappropriate”? That’s the best word you could come up with to describe his suggestion that the US assassinate a democratically-elected head of state?

How about:  
-outrageous  
-indefensible  
-un-Christian  
-pathetic  
-moronic  
-anti-American  
-disgusting  
-harmful to America’s image abroad

Did any of those words make the initial draft of the statement?

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/123 "2005-08-24T14:08:34Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> **Originally posted by State Department**  
> “His comments are inappropriate,” he said. “Allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless and without fact.”

“I have no plans to attack Iraq” - Bush, May 2002

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/124 "2005-08-24T14:08:37Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> One sec, there’s a quota?

From [Bible Gateway](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=7&verse=7&end_verse=9&version=9&context=context).

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/125 "2005-08-24T14:19:40Z")

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I think my anti-Bush credentials are as good as anyone’s, and I think the Administration comments are almost exactly right. They’re simply dismissive, which is the correct tone to take. There’s no need to go overboard in denouncing Pat (loathsome as he is) because he’s just not worth it. Frankly, I’m surprised that they said anything at all, but I guess probably some reporters asked fairly pointedly.

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**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/126 "2005-08-24T14:25:17Z")

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Are other right wing religious figures condemning Pat Robertson ? Muslim clerics have started condeming Bin Laden… I hope americans do the same to their extremists… :eek:

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/127 "2005-08-24T14:28:40Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> I think my anti-Bush credentials are as good as anyone’s, and I think the Administration comments are almost exactly right. They’re simply dismissive, which is the correct tone to take. There’s no need to go overboard in denouncing Pat (loathsome as he is) because he’s just not worth it. Frankly, I’m surprised that they said anything at all, but I guess probably some reporters asked fairly pointedly.

I’m another Bush opponent that’s satisfied with the comments.

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/128 "2005-08-24T15:30:52Z")

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> [@adam yax](#):
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> I would have thought that you were Canadian for even bringing it up. Who do you write for?

I’m a Canuck living in New York, stealing an American job working for a U.S. network 🙂 More than that I will not say.

But Pat has a million viewers every fucking night? OH YOUR GOD! Just shows that Bin Laden should have aimed his planes at Virginia instead of the Pentagon.

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/129 "2005-08-24T15:48:16Z")

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> [@Barbarian](#):
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> Just shows that Bin Laden should have aimed his planes at Virginia instead of the Pentagon.

Do you seriously need someone to tell you that that level of hyperbole is inappropriate?

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**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/130 "2005-08-24T15:48:49Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> I’m sure Jesus could do anything he wanted, including microwave a buritto so hot that he could not eat it.

> [@King Missile](#):
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> Jesus was way cool…He turned water into wine, and if he wanted to he could have turned wheat into marijuana, or sugar into cocaine, or vitamin pills into amphetamines…He could’ve played guitar better than Hendrix. He could’ve told the future. He could’ve baked the most delicious cake in the world. He could’ve scored more goals than Wayne Gretzky. He could’ve danced better than Barishnikov… No wonder there are so many Christians …

😛

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/131 "2005-08-24T17:01:24Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> I suspect he’ll just take a page from Rush Limbaugh and [simply deny ever making the statement](http://mediamatters.org/items/top/200508180002) in the first place.

Close. We all just [misinterpreted his statement](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/robertson.chavez/index.html).

What a fucking moron.

Which part of

> [@](#):
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> “If he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it,” said Robertson on Monday’s program. “It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war.”

did we misinterpret as “murder”.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/132 "2005-08-24T17:06:07Z")

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> [@The Weird One](#):
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> Do you seriously need someone to tell you that that level of hyperbole is inappropriate?

Haven’t been the Pit long, eh?

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/133 "2005-08-24T18:07:07Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> Haven’t been the Pit long, eh?

Oh, right, I forgot, I meant to say “‘that level of hyperbole is innappropriate,’ you America-hating communist Canuck, why don’t you go felch a sled-dog?” Sorry, I won’t let it happen again. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/134 "2005-08-24T18:17:21Z")

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> [@Barbarian](#):
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> I’m a Canuck living in New York, stealing an American job working for a U.S. network.

Well, I suspect you’re not Peter Jennings.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/135 "2005-08-24T19:26:41Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Well, I suspect you’re not Peter Jennings.

Oh, ye of little faith. Put your hand in his lungs and see for yourself.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/136 "2005-08-24T19:34:07Z")

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> [@The Weird One](#):
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> Do you seriously need someone to tell you that that level of hyperbole is inappropriate?

I’m sorry, I seem to have misplaced my Guide to Socially Acceptable Levels of Hyperbole. Is it available online anywhere?

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**Author:** ![sunfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sunfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunfish)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/137 "2005-08-24T19:36:49Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> Which part of
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> > [@](#):
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> > “If he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it,” said Robertson on Monday’s program. “It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war.”
> 
> did we misinterpret as “murder”…

> [@](#):
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> I said our special forces should ‘take him out.’ And ‘take him out’ can be a number of things, including kidnapping; there are a number of ways to take out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted by the AP [Associated Press], but that happens all the time.

[There](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/robertson.chavez/index.html) you have it! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/138 "2005-08-24T19:44:07Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> Oh, ye of little faith. Put your hand in his lungs and see for yourself.

Eewwwwww! :eek:

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/139 "2005-08-24T19:53:58Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> Oh, ye of little faith. Put your hand in his lungs and see for yourself.

[In this? No way!](http://www.smokerslungs.com/)\*

\*Warning – majorly yucky images.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/same-to-you-pat-robertson/318228/140 "2005-08-24T20:25:22Z")

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Wooooo Hooooo!

Robertson was ‘misinterpreted’…  
I’m shocked in a Claude Rains kinda way.

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