# Samuel Adams has jumped the shark! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** beer\ **Created:** [December 5, 2023, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131 "2023-12-05T11:31:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131/81 "2024-03-04T15:12:56Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Australians will laugh at you for drinking Foster’s. Rightiy so. Castlemaine and XXXX are much better. It’s like going to Mexico and drinking Corona… …but Corona is the beer Mexicans consume the most. They’re not snooty about it like some folks ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131/82 "2024-03-04T15:27:01Z")
I drink entirely too much beer. I was never a big fan of Sam Adams, but I had one recently and thought it was much worse than I remembered. I was unaware they had changed it. They used to make a Rebel IPA which I thought was excellent, but they stopped. Now I have three main beers: Pilsner Urquell on hot days Harpoon IPA on cold days Guinness when I can get it on tap ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131/83 "2024-03-04T15:57:11Z")
One of the many good things about Mexicans is that they are not snooty about much. Corona is not bad, heavily marketed, often discounted and appeals to tourists. The clear glass bottle is iconic, but it is better with lime. Modelo Negro from the same brewer is better, as is Tecate or Pacifico or Dos Equis. Real Mexicans might prefer micheladas, since everything is better with chile. Snooty people place Corona far from the top and prefer microbrews or tequila añejo. > **[Top Rated Beers: Mexico](https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/top-rated/mx/)** > > What are the best beers from: Mexico? Here's a list of the highest rated beers from brewers in: Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131/84 "2024-03-04T16:05:26Z")
That wasn’t my point. There’s this preoccupation with what “Real” ™ people prefer. Actual Mexicans purchase and consume Corona more than other beers, regardless of quality. My point is/was they aren’t going to laugh at the funny foreigners for drinking the same thing they drink themselves. And that’s fine! They have other options yet they choose this one predominantly. It’s not my cup of tea (or pint of beer, in this case), but what other people, especially people in other countries, choose to drink or not drink doesn’t hurt or affect me either way. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131/85 "2024-03-04T16:11:48Z")
Mexicans would not laugh at you for drinking Corona. Australians would if you, as a tourist, ordered Foster’s. I don’t care one iota what people choose to drink, but that does not make all drinks equally delicious. I once went to Peru. The bar only sold two types of beer (which they might have brewed). The standard was a very sour lager, not to my taste. Women drank “fruitilla” beer which was a lambic, beer mixed with tropical fruits, and exceptional. I disliked the standard, and loved the fruitilla. Four foot tall Peruvian men wanted to fight me for this merimacho preference. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131/86 "2024-03-04T16:54:15Z")
Anheuser Busch was said to have lost $1B in sales of Bud Light over what is essentially piddling posturing. Most people care more about what “real people prefer” than I do. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131/87 "2024-03-04T16:58:00Z")
Indeed, > [@Newcastle Brown Ale has been re-imagined by Lagunitas. Re-imagined = ruined](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/newcastle-brown-ale-has-been-re-imagined-by-lagunitas-re-imagined-ruined/836481/1): > > Newcastle Brown Ale, a tasty British import Ale was a very good mild ale. Now the geniuses at Lagunitas has made a new formula for the US market and it is just bitter. No taste of ale at all. The only thing they got right was at least it is finally in a brown bottle. Now get off my lawn you damn kids. **Bass** is not the same since the In-Bev buyout, at least not in the US. Maybe it is the same in the UK. Lots of beers have corporate overlords that never should have bought them out. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131/88 "2024-03-05T05:23:40Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > **Bass** is not the same since the In-Bev buyout, at least not in the US. Maybe it is the same in the UK. > > Lots of beers have corporate overlords that never should have bought them out. I don’t trust American brewers with recipes from other coutries. Wouldn’t put it past them to use or increase the adjuncts like corn or rice in to cut costs. There were rumours of Miller doing this when they had the license to make Lowenbrau. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuel-adams-has-jumped-the-shark/994131.md?page=4)