# "SamuelA" Taken to Task

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 9, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405 "2019-08-09T11:54:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/21 "2019-08-09T22:44:19Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#):
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> They could try being Irish or Italian for awhile. Just to see if they like it.

When I was a kid I wanted to be a Mbuti pygmy when I grew up, but my parents wouldn’t let me.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/22 "2019-08-09T23:21:45Z")

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Even more efficient - you could just take the kids when they’re young and have them adopted by dominant culture families. Then they’ll definitely become part of the dominant culture. There’s [no way that could possibly go wrong](https://www.smh.com.au/national/caught-up-in-a-scientific-racism-designed-to-breed-out-the-black-20080214-gds108.html)

I’m sure we could get President Xi to subscribe to Samuel’s newsletter. Oh, wait, he already has…

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/23 "2019-08-09T23:41:58Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Nonsense! A great thread, like the one dedicated to pitting SamuelA, is like a long, magnificent river. As it meanders the great expanse of its many miles, its nature changes – here a perhaps a rush of rapids, there a vast plain of slow-moving water – but it is always the same water, always the same river.

Nah, just a vortex going counter(?) clockwise down the ole draineroo.  
Anyhowdy, I just don’t have the unprotected and soon-to-get-wet enough dick (for doinkin the hot underage Lithuanian sluts) to engage in this thread in the capacity that I had hoped.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/24 "2019-08-09T23:50:56Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> When I was a kid I wanted to be a Mbuti pygmy when I grew up, but my parents wouldn’t let me.

Just as well, if you were a pygmy you wouldn’t have grown up anyway.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/25 "2019-08-09T23:58:13Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Nah, just a vortex going counter(?) clockwise down the ole draineroo.  
> Anyhowdy, I just don’t have the unprotected and soon-to-get-wet enough dick (for doinkin the hot underage Lithuanian sluts) to engage in this thread in the capacity that I had hoped.

There you go. If you haven’t read the other thread, you haven’t experienced Sammy defending sex trafficking.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/26 "2019-08-10T00:59:17Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> There you go. If you haven’t read the other thread, you haven’t experienced Sammy defending sex trafficking.

I’d say he practically endorsed it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/27 "2019-08-10T01:40:49Z")

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Sex trafficking in an area infamous for underage prostitutes, no less.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/28 "2019-08-10T02:22:38Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> There you go. If you haven’t read the other thread, you haven’t experienced Sammy defending sex trafficking.

Well, it is kind of amusing to see that [del]twerp[/del] troll defend it with “But my contract requires me to do this!” Too bad he hasn’t bothered to grok that his contract also requires him to report crimes he’s aware of to the appropriate authorities.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/29 "2019-08-10T03:04:08Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Nah. That thread was getting overloaded with stuff unrelated to the reason the OP pitted him. And after the threads get to a certain size, I think a lot of people tune out.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Nonsense! A great thread, like the one dedicated to pitting SamuelA, is like a long, magnificent river. As it meanders the great expanse of its many miles, its nature changes – here a perhaps a rush of rapids, there a vast plain of slow-moving water – but it is always the same water, always the same river. It’s all connected, all dedicated to the singular purpose – in the case of SamuelA – to celebrating the breathtaking combination of vapid ignorance and oblivious arrogance that has created such a sensation. It’s a shame not to keep it all in one place, if only for posterity, so that those who come after us may know what we have endured.

My read on it, is, that when **SamuelA** realized he couldn’t debate on a “scientific” level, he moved from demonstrating “expertise” in “engineering-based” issues and their solutions, to economic/govermental policy, then to more society/sociological issues, to then just whatever his mind burped out between his ears. The reason it was overloaded with stuff unrelated to the OP was because **SamuelA** drifted away from the OP’s premise, as he was reaching for whatever self-aggrandizing topic he could. . .

It’s still a great thread to read, if you understand that it’s a train wreck in slow motion.

Tripler  
It actually reads kind of entertainingly if you ignore **SamuelA** and just read all of the side conversations.

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**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/30 "2019-08-10T22:49:00Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> So, your “solution” is for minorities to forsake their cultural identities; indeed, their ENTIRE culture, in order to blend into a hostile, Fascist dominant group and basically hide there?!
> 
> What is wrong with you?

Hi, Jasmine. I appreciate your honest and frank expression of your opinions. I can see from your perspective, especially if you start from an initial assumption that the poster is a (racist, sexist, Nazi, etc), that you might find this post of mine offensive.

This was not my intent.

I agree with you completely that a minority shouldn’t have to forsake their culture. In any just world, that would never be necessary. People should stand up for their rights and band together and march for justice.

However, in this _specific_ historical period, this was not the right time to do this. Sophie Scholl’s fate is one of many.

_In general_, as an _individual_ or minority group, if you find yourself facing an intolerant, hostile culture, your will get the best outcomes if you:  
a. Move or b. Blend in. The optimal solution obviously depending on what options are available.

Standing up for your rights is the least likely to succeed, as laudable and heroic as it might be.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/31 "2019-08-10T23:14:00Z")

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Wow. Your hiatus taught you nothing.

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**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/32 "2019-08-10T23:22:09Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Wow. Your hiatus taught you nothing.

In the running for those Cheetos, I see.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/33 "2019-08-10T23:25:38Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Breath baited.

Does your breath smell like fish?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/34 "2019-08-10T23:44:32Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Wow. Your hiatus taught you nothing.

Nope. I’m just an observer. Have you ever watched a baseball game and the runner is barrelling towards home plate, then slides into home and misses it by about four feet, and the umpire jerks his thumb over his shoulder, and says, “But, why?” Yeah, me neither. All I’m doing is reporting, just like the umpire.

My earlier report: You were a troll.  
Updated report: You got suspened.  
Current report: Your suspension is up; you’re still a troll.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/35 "2019-08-11T01:08:32Z")

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Look! This is awesome!

> [@Misogyny and Moderation, again](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-and-moderation-again/838462/61):
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> It’s already been answered. And I don’t really expect a real answer from Mandy Jo, I hold a negative opinion about that poster. I think now that the OP isn’t resulting in the desired sanctions to nate, that she will not continue the conversation further.

I’ve been here for 20 years and 11k posts and I think he’s the first person whose ever publicly insulted me. I think I’m pretty firmly in the “benignly innocuous” category. I’m so excited.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/36 "2019-08-11T01:25:38Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> Look! This is awesome!
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> I’ve been here for 20 years and 11k posts and I think he’s the first person whose ever publicly insulted me. I think I’m pretty firmly in the “benignly innocuous” category. I’m so excited.

You should be. **SamuelA** is a minor celebrity ([look at the size of this thread!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=843654)) just back from a one-month suspension, and [possibly the board’s leading misogynist](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21743288&postcount=15). Any argument that he inserts himself into automatically poisons whatever side he is on, making the proponents of that side too embarrassed to come back. Just be grateful he didn’t choose to take your side! 😃

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**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/37 "2019-08-11T01:27:24Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> You should be. **SamuelA** is a minor celebrity ([look at the size of this thread!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=843654)) just back from a one-month suspension, and [possibly the board’s leading misogynist](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21743288&postcount=15). Any argument that he inserts himself into automatically poisons whatever side he is on, making the proponents of that side too embarrassed to come back. Just be grateful he didn’t choose to take your side! 😃

While wolfpup essentially follows me around and says the most negative thing he can! He’s like an anti-cheerleader!

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/38 "2019-08-11T01:43:10Z")

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We are all anti-you.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/samuela-taken-to-task/838405/39 "2019-08-11T01:46:20Z")

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No, I don’t follow you around. You’re not that important. But you do show up quite a lot in places I happen to be, and I often can’t resist commenting on your pontifications because you’re quite entertaining, even if unintentionally so. But many other posters – like **Tripler** – are generally more eloquent. They also run contests with prizes involving your activities (no, you’re not eligible)! 😃

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