Feinstein once admitted publicly that she had a California concealed carry permit and indeed often carried a .38 in her purse. I think I’ve heard since that she allowed her permit to lapse. And from dark recess in my mind, I seem to recall that she had the .38 melted down - and made into a crucifix which she then gave to Pope Paul. Bizarre, if true.
Here it is. Seems my memory is working. And so is Google.
http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Books%20and%20News/Permission%20to%20Pack
You are correct. The doctrine of binding the states through the 14th Amendment is called “incorporation” and the 2nd Amendment has not been incorporated.
Indeed, it’s called the future.
If it is, I don’t like it there. Forward, into the Past!
Dunno about SF but DC has a similar law. No guns allowed at all. Every so often they have days when gun owners can turn in their guns and (IIRC) get a small monetary reward. From what I hear, the guns that are turned in are mainly POS that haven’t been fired in years, making the reward more than the gun is worth.
Rather, no handguns allowed at all.
I applaude SFers for approving this ban. Like Icarus said it’s the future they are living in and probably in twenty years several other large American cities will try and do this. As stated Washington D.C. has gun control and Chicago has some type of ban or tried something along these lines, I think. Of course this type of law will never take effect in Texas where you are permitted to pick your nose in church or public with your gun.
Good job SF!
Oh boy! We all get ray guns in the future! Where do I sign up?
I suppose that (since some other cities have done it), they might make a handgun ban stick in San Francisco. I don’t agree with it, and I wouldn’t have voted for it. But forcing people to give up their private property without compensation? That would make me furious. I don’t own a handgun, but my parents own three. All are legally owned and properly registered. Two of them they bought themselves and paid several hundred dollars each for – they would have to just turn these over for nothing? The third is a .22 that my mother’s now-dead brother bought and gave to her as a gift 35 years ago. She would have to just give that up or be in violation of the law? Amazing. And super-amazing that anyone, no matter their views on gun ownership, whould think this reasonable.
How was this handled in DC and Chicago? Were legally registered guns grandfathered? Were people compensated for the loss of their property at fair-market value? Were exceptions allowed for heirloom guns? Antique guns?
Jesus fucking Christ, how I wish that were true.
Note that you don’t have to give the gun to the SF police. You could sell it ahead of time to someone, you can store it outside of SF, etc. The presumption that you can only turn the gun into the police is silly.
Note that there are a lot of illegal items that people are not allowed to possess in the US and that you are not entitled to receive compensation for.
E.g., you get busted with a roach (aka “street value of a million dollars worth of marijuana”). Think you’d get far trying to get a million bucks for your confiscated property? And remember, formerly legal substances get put onto control lists quite frequently, no compensation there either.
Whats stopping the citizens from selling their handguns to someone in a place where they are legal?
Some questions:
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Do those of you who object to this law also think the 2nd ammendment protects the private ownership of cannons, bazookas, and nuclear weapons? If not, aren’t those also “arms”?
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When Cocaine, LSD, marijuana, and child porn were made illegal did the govt need to compensate people who already possesed them?
The difference being that this is a legally purchased piece of equipment.
If gun control laws demonstrated some quantifiable effectiveness in permanently reducing violent crime there would at least be an empirical argument here. But historically, they don’t. The Constitutional issue aside, this is just a way for politicians to claim to be “doing something” while ignoring the root problems of crime.
Stranger
Like say, Oakland? Nothing, I’d imagine.
I own a cannon. The Febs have no problem with it.
That’s how the rest of us feel about Texas.
“Proposition H?”
What kind of a flaming asshole came up with that?
Right here where it says, “I want a 2020’s Style Death Ray.”