# Sanders and Trump agree to a debate...how do you think it will turn out? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 26, 2016, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734 "2016-05-26T12:18:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/21 "2016-05-26T17:18:34Z")
Sanders needs this. Does Trump? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/22 "2016-05-26T17:55:10Z")
Trump will not debate Sanders, he hasn’t debated anyone yet. He shows up at what is titled a “debate” and then gives speeches. Which, in his case, amount to random globs of bullshit. He isn’t going to debate Clinton either, because she would squash him. He will find some excuse, mostly like how the media treats him so unfairly, and then he won’t do it. Love to be wrong about that, go plenty of popcorn… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/23 "2016-05-26T18:08:12Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The link below is 20 minutes old. Sanders’ people say backchannel talks about it are progressing. Trump people did not comment. > [http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281374-sanders-camp-discussions-underway-for-trump-debate](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281374-sanders-camp-discussions-underway-for-trump-debate) This is the same Sanders who thinks his chances of becoming President are also progressing, so…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/24 "2016-05-26T18:14:51Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Trump is a misogynist to be sure. I think he is their national spokesman. > > But Sanders? Really? Do you have examples of his misogyny? Its dated, he was a college student, but this is really disturbing to modern feminist eyes: > **[Read 21-year-old Bernie Sanders' manifesto on sexual freedom](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/bernie-sanders-university-of-chicago-free-love/)** > > The Democratic presidential candidate was exactly what you'd expect in college. > **[Once Upon A Time, Bernie Sanders Blamed Cervical Cancer On Lack of Orgasms](https://dailycaller.com/2015/07/06/once-upon-a-time-bernie-sanders-blamed-cervical-cancer-on-lack-of-orgasms/)** > > The self-described socialist Bernie Sanders once argued that cervical cancer was caused by women not experiencing a sufficient amounts of orgasms. Now, women arguing for more sexual freedom is great. Men arguing for more sex for women is rather self serving. Especially arguing the the need to put out or they’ll get cancer. Also, more recently, there was the whole Clinton not qualified to be President thing. A lot of people read that as sexist - after all, she was a Senator, Secretary of State and holds an Ivy League Law degree. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/25 "2016-05-26T18:18:08Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Sanders needs this. Does Trump? As a way to harm Hillary, yes. He needs all the help he can get and Bernie would sadly be happy enough to provide it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/26 "2016-05-26T19:27:07Z")
The thing is, I can’t see both of these guys, contained in the same room, to stay consistently on a “bash Hillary” message for more than 6 minutes without one of them just losing it and start to insult the other. “Yeah? Well, at least people heard about my college and got degrees in classes that mattered. What do you learn in Bennington College anyway? Pottery and flower design? No wonder it failed, it was small potatoes. Trump University, however… that was HYOOOOOOGE.” “Ha! At least I didn’t line my pockets with the interest charged on the debt I put them in so they could go to my school! You’re just another plutocrat like Hillary Clinton who thinks the country is for sale, and…!” “Who cares? I could close 10 colleges tomorrow and nobody would care! Why, I was just asked by Harvard University to review their endowments\*, so I know what it takes to make a successful college… and to Make America Great Again!” Riots ensue. This could be the highlight of the political season - let’s hope it happens! 😃 \*Reality Check: No he wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/27 "2016-05-26T19:38:38Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > As a way to harm Hillary, yes. He needs all the help he can get and Bernie would sadly be happy enough to provide it. It would almost be win win for Trump. The better Sanders does in the debate, the more it drives his supporters into #BernieOrBust territory. ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/28 "2016-05-26T19:42:51Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Trump won’t lay into Sanders too hard because he wants Sanders to be a drag on Clinton as long as possible. He’ll call him a Socialist, etc, but I don’t expect him to use any personal attacks or belittling nicknames like he does against real opponents. > > I expect the two of them to highlight the differences they have with each other, but to be pretty cordial about it. They both want Sanders to look good. > > ETA: But I also agree it probably won’t happen. It probably will happen. It is in the interest of both people that it does happen. The contrast of an all over the map Trump vs a much more hard line left leaning liberal like Bernie makes Trump look MORE conservative next to that exemplar of the left. Next to Hillary? LEss so since Hillary is to the right of Trump on some foreign policy issues/stances. For Bernie, he gets more attention put on him, Hillary refuses to debate so Bernie steps on the toes of the front runner by cutting her out of the debate stage with a Trump/Bernie focus. TV stations would LOVE this to happen, this debate is something people on the right and left want to see more than Hillary vs Trump. Part of that is less about policy positions than it’s about style, Hillary is not an engaging speaker, at all. Elizabeth Warren has more fire and grit in her attacks, Hillary always comes across as saying what she thinks will go over best, and that strips the heart out of everything she says until it comes across as mindless droning. Even positions you agree with, coming from her, sound staid and you want it to stop. This is OBVIOUSLY happening for the reasons listed above. ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/29 "2016-05-26T19:46:44Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Sanders needs this. Does Trump? It will help Trump consolidate more support from hardline conservative ranks, the gallows doth wonderfully concentrate the mind, and next to Bernie Trump looks like Calvin Coolidge. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/30 "2016-05-26T20:09:55Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Its dated, he was a college student, but this is really disturbing to modern feminist eyes: > > [Read 21-Year-Old Bernie Sanders’ Manifesto on Sexual Freedom – Mother Jones](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/bernie-sanders-university-of-chicago-free-love) > > [Once Upon A Time, Bernie Sanders Blamed Cervical Cancer On Lack of Orgasms | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/06/once-upon-a-time-bernie-sanders-blamed-cervical-cancer-on-lack-of-orgasms/) > > Now, women arguing for more sexual freedom is great. Men arguing for more sex for women is rather self serving. Especially arguing the the need to put out or they’ll get cancer. > > Also, more recently, there was the whole Clinton not qualified to be President thing. A lot of people read that as sexist - after all, she was a Senator, Secretary of State and holds an Ivy League Law degree. That’s it? That’s all it takes to for someone to be a misogynist in your opinion? Something written over 50 years ago when he was 21 (and arguable if misogynistic especially for its time) and a misinterpreted quote about Clinton’s qualifications? (Most people on this message board are literally qualified to be president but I bet it is safe to say that in your opinion you would not deem them “qualified”.) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/31 "2016-05-26T20:13:56Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Question is what do you think the debate will be like? Mudslinging? Both sounding reasonable? Something else? Probably it will consist of the two talking past each other because they don’t even speak the same political language. They’ll just rattle off their talking points – responsive perhaps to the mods’ questions, but in no way responsive to anything said by the other. Then it will degenerate into a bare-knuckled brawl over who serves the best pizza in NYC. I hope. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/32 "2016-05-26T20:17:35Z")
Not the way Trump rolls, he is almost exclusively improvisational. He starts talking down a particular path until he notices something shiny, then he veers off in that direction, until he sees something else. Rinse, blather, repeat. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/33 "2016-05-26T20:33:52Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Its dated, he was a college student, but this is really disturbing to modern feminist eyes: > > [Read 21-Year-Old Bernie Sanders’ Manifesto on Sexual Freedom – Mother Jones](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/bernie-sanders-university-of-chicago-free-love) > > [Once Upon A Time, Bernie Sanders Blamed Cervical Cancer On Lack of Orgasms | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/06/once-upon-a-time-bernie-sanders-blamed-cervical-cancer-on-lack-of-orgasms/) > > Now, women arguing for more sexual freedom is great. Men arguing for more sex for women is rather self serving. Especially arguing the the need to put out or they’ll get cancer. Are you suggesting [Uncle Cecil was _wrong?_](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/463/why-do-ones-loins-ache-after-a-session-of-nonclimactic-arousal). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/34 "2016-05-26T20:35:05Z")
> **[Trump’s Condition For Debating Sanders: Raising Money For Women’s Health](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-sanders-debate-womens-health)** > > Presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump said Thursday that if he and Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) can raise $10 or $15 million for women's health issues, they' By way of _Talking Points Memo_, without which no citizen can hope to be well informed… **Trump’s Condition For Debating Sanders: Raising Money For Women’s Health** > [@](#): > > …“If we can raise for maybe women’s health issues if we can raise $10 or $15 million dollars for charity—I think it would get very high ratings,” Trump said. > > “I’d love to debate Bernie. He’s a dream,” Trump said, adding that they would have a “lot of fun” and that Sanders would lose… ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/35 "2016-05-26T20:52:00Z")
I would think Trump will walk in to this debate planning to treat Bernie all nice and friendly because he will expect this to just be the two of them trashing Hillary. Trump will be caught flat-footed when Bernie goes after him with both barrels. This will result in Trump totally losing his cool and going into a frothing rage and call Bernie every insulting name he can think up on the spot. It could be highly entertaining. Or, it will never happen. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/36 "2016-05-26T21:01:27Z")
‘Bloviatin’ Bernie?’ Naah, Trump doesn’t know words that big, nor do many of his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![ebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@ebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ebb)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/37 "2016-05-26T21:25:58Z")
As with many things this campaign season, if this were to happen on a fictional political TV show, the viewers would rightly dismiss it as being too unbelievable. “Okay – so what if we have the blowhard guy have a debate with the crazy socialist guy? That’d make a terrific episode! Great ratings!” “Because that’s not the way it works, Ed. We’ve explained this. Both parties pick their nominees, and then those nominees go have a debate. There’s a separate debate for the VPs, but nobody pays much attention to that.” “But… but… It’d be fun to watch! C’mon, let’s just put it in. People don’t care about all that accuracy stuff anyway.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/38 "2016-05-26T21:35:34Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Hillary really ought to debate Bernie. A debate between Bernie and Trump would only make Hilary look like a coward who doesn’t think she can actually win a debate. But, she already has debated Sanders several times. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/39 "2016-05-26T22:06:36Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > But, she already has debated Sanders several times. Oh, you and your facts and stuff. Fie on you I say! ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734/40 "2016-05-26T22:11:57Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > Bernie Trump looks like Calvin Coolidge. Who’s this “Bernie Trump”? Any relation to Donald Sanders? 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-and-trump-agree-to-a-debate-how-do-you-think-it-will-turn-out/755734.md?page=3)