# Sanders supposedly to endorse Clinton on Tuesday the 12th

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 9, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451 "2016-07-09T02:57:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/1 "2016-07-09T02:57:21Z")

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> **[Bernie Sanders poised to endorse Hillary Clinton at event Tuesday | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/06/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-democratic-platform/)**
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> Bernie Sanders is poised to endorse Hillary Clinton at a campaign event Tuesday in New Hampshire, provided that final disagreements in the Democratic platform can be resolved during a weekend party meeting in Orlando, people familiar with the talks...

Good if true. I think most of Sanders supporters have already switched to Clinton but maybe this move will help with the hold outs.

This election in 2016 could be so lopsided that South Carolina and Georgia could become swing states.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/2 "2016-07-09T02:59:36Z")

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BFT

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/3 "2016-07-09T03:08:38Z")

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Of what year?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/4 "2016-07-09T03:16:02Z")

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It seems this fix is in, too. 😉

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/5 "2016-07-09T05:32:59Z")

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Who is “Sanders”? The KFC colonel, perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/6 "2016-07-09T05:49:16Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Who is “Sanders”? The KFC colonel, perhaps?

I think it’s a carpenters union or something like that.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/7 "2016-07-09T06:07:59Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> I think it’s a carpenters union or something like that.

🙂

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/8 "2016-07-12T20:35:21Z")

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How is this any better than Paul Ryan and the various losers of the Republican nomination endorsing Trump?

OK, sure, Hillary is a better candidate than Donald Trump. But that’s not what I mean. If party loyalty is important enough that anti-corruption Democrats should line up behind Ms. Corruption, why does anyone bother to denounce Republicans who line up behind Trump?

Is this an independent deciding to support her based on an examination of the individuals? Or just a Democratic partisan sticking with the party?

No, this does not change my mind about Hillary. Why would it? I supported Bernie partly _because he wasn’t her._

I get why he’s doing it, but he’s not really going to bring over the anti-Clinton vote, or the “Bernie or Bust” crowd.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/9 "2016-07-12T20:41:01Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> ```
> Is this an independent deciding to support her based on an examination of the individuals? Or just a Democratic partisan sticking with the party?
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Bernie Sanders, a Democratic partisan?? Since when???

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/10 "2016-07-12T21:52:59Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Is this an independent deciding to support her based on an examination of the individuals? Or just a Democratic partisan sticking with the party?

I think it is him acknowledging that although Clinton agenda isn’t an exact carbon copy of his agenda, it is not all that different and certainly several light years closer than Donald Trumps.

I agree that the “I hate Hillary with the passion of a thousand dying suns, from Hell’s heart, I stab at her, for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at her” voters like you won’t be convinced, but I think that most rank and file Bernie supporters will make the same principled decision that he did.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/11 "2016-07-13T01:12:20Z")

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He appears to have posted it as a note on Facebook (likely among other places):

> **[Log into Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/notes/bernie-sanders/forever-forward/1086061604782176)**
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> Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.

The comments section is, predictably, pretty much just his former supporters cannibalizing him and declaring he’s basically dead to them for being “spineless” and they’re off to support Stein or Trump because #NeverHillary or whatever.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/12 "2016-07-13T01:47:09Z")

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I supported Bernie, but unlike many of his fans, I’m glad he did this. He would split the left wing vote if he ran independent, giving us President Trump.:eek:

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/13 "2016-07-13T02:34:56Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I supported Bernie partly _because he wasn’t her._
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> I get why he’s doing it, but he’s not really going to bring over the anti-Clinton vote, or the “Bernie or Bust” crowd.

Nor can anyone or anything bring over the viscerally anti-Clinton vote to Clinton. You can’t reason people out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. There is no reason to waste time trying. Just let Trump give you his thanks for your support, while you find some old Naderite excuses you can borrow for the consequences.

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**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/14 "2016-07-13T03:21:32Z")

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Did Bernie mention anything about Clinton’s son-in-law Marc Marc Mezvinsky who owns a hedge fund that is financed by Lloyd Blankfein the CEO of Gold Man Sacks? I know Sanders has strong feelings about Wall Street.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/15 "2016-07-13T05:18:42Z")

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“Boy, that Sanders has great ideas! I want to see his ideas put into action! Wait, I’d have to vote for Clinton to see any of those ideas put into action? Well… I’ll just vote for Stein instead and… get no closer to seeing any of those ideas in action than I was before. It’s all Sanders’ fault!!”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/16 "2016-07-13T06:30:01Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Did Bernie mention anything about Clinton’s son-in-law Marc Marc Mezvinsky who owns a hedge fund that is financed by Lloyd Blankfein the CEO of Gold Man Sacks? I know Sanders has strong feelings about Wall Street.

Don’t you have any other notes?

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/17 "2016-07-13T08:43:39Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I think it is him acknowledging that although Clinton agenda isn’t an exact carbon copy of his agenda, it is not all that different and certainly several light years closer than Donald Trumps.
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> I agree that the “I hate Hillary with the passion of a thousand dying suns, from Hell’s heart, I stab at her, for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at her” voters like you won’t be convinced, but I think that most rank and file Bernie supporters will make the same principled decision that he did.

**foolsguinea** mentioned that he was raised Republican. There were \*positive \*reasons to support Bernie, but he’s claiming he did it only because Bernie was _not Hillary_.

Now he can stop pretending & return to his GOP roots…

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/18 "2016-07-13T09:33:03Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> **foolsguinea** mentioned that he was raised Republican. There were \*positive \*reasons to support Bernie, but he’s claiming he did it only because Bernie was _not Hillary_.
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> Now he can stop pretending & return to his GOP roots…

Yep. And he has the gall to claim some kind of moral superiority over the whole thing, as if supporting the Democrat who has more reasonable policies and is more electable is somehow a sign of weakness.

Which, come to think of it, is also pretty diagnostic of being a Ranting Republican…

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/19 "2016-07-13T10:15:21Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Did Bernie mention anything about Clinton’s son-in-law Marc Marc Mezvinsky who owns a hedge fund that is financed by Lloyd Blankfein the CEO of Gold Man Sacks? I know Sanders has strong feelings about Wall Street.

The needle’s stuck. Someone nudge the broken record.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanders-supposedly-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-the-12th/759451/20 "2016-07-13T11:00:05Z")

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**Jragon** , you haven’t learned yet to ignore online comments sections?

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