# Sanders's Supporters Brownshirts Stop Trump Rally in Chicago

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 12, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710 "2016-03-12T02:28:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/501 "2016-03-16T00:54:53Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> It’s not just Trump supporters. If anything, their aggression is a reaction to the aggressive presence of the Bernshirts.

Based on their track record so far, their aggression is a reaction to the mere presence of an Other in their midst.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/502 "2016-03-16T01:54:41Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Based on their track record so far, their aggression is a reaction to the mere presence of an Other in their midst.

Cool story bro.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/503 "2016-03-16T02:08:04Z")

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Hey, you’re the one who said that their presence was aggressive.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/504 "2016-03-16T14:29:59Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The black guy says he wasn’t even protesting, and [another man confirms that](https://youtu.be/eM7bzehxOrM?t=205). You seem to believe he was, yet have no proof for that claim.

He wasn’t protesting? And he was on the floor of a Trump rally? I guess we could assume that he was a Trump supporter? 😃

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/505 "2016-03-16T14:31:33Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> There’s so much wrong with this statement I don’t even have to comment.

And yet you did. Interesting. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/506 "2016-03-16T14:38:41Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> He wasn’t protesting? And he was on the floor of a Trump rally? I guess we could assume that he was a Trump supporter? 😃

Why would you? He could be a confirmed Hillary voter, but that doesn’t make him a protester. Lots of people at Trump rallies have been ejected [for just standing there](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/29/donald-trump-georgia-rally-valdosta/81129964/).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/507 "2016-03-16T14:43:40Z")

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“Get him out!” is the new “You’re fired!”.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/508 "2016-03-16T14:55:56Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> He wasn’t protesting? And he was on the floor of a Trump rally? I guess we could assume that he was a Trump supporter? 😃

So, all attendees at a Trump rally are either supporters or protesters? There is absolutely no one who is neither? That can’t be right.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/509 "2016-03-16T15:11:36Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> So, all attendees at a Trump rally are either supporters or protesters? There is absolutely no one who is neither? That can’t be right.

There should also have been cops, ticket-takers, equipment handlers, hot dog venders, and reporters. Nah, the reporters would have been Hillary supporters. I suppose there could have been a plethora of confused people who simply wandered off the street, entered the arena without a ticket, and accidentally found themselves in the middle of an anti-free speech protest.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/510 "2016-03-16T15:41:53Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> There should also have been cops, ticket-takers, equipment handlers, hot dog venders, and reporters. Nah, the reporters would have been Hillary supporters.

You are missing the point. Is it your opinion that all Hillary supporters are _de facto_ protesters?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/511 "2016-03-16T16:00:52Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> There should also have been cops, ticket-takers, equipment handlers, hot dog venders, and reporters. Nah, the reporters would have been Hillary supporters. I suppose there could have been a plethora of confused people who simply wandered off the street, entered the arena without a ticket, and accidentally found themselves in the middle of an anti-free speech protest.

So, in your mind, everyone other than people actually working at the event (and every member of the press, apparently) is either a supporter or a protester. Got it.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/512 "2016-03-16T23:48:54Z")

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I’m not sure why I’m making the effort, but… There would also be people there who thought it would just be an interesting event to experience, and those who weren’t sure what all the fuss was about this Trump fellow and who wanted to find out for themselves, and people who weren’t much interested themselves but who went because a friend wanted to, or many other reasons why someone might attend a rally.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/513 "2016-03-17T14:23:42Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Why would you? He could be a confirmed Hillary voter, but that doesn’t make him a protester. Lots of people at Trump rallies have been ejected [for just standing there](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/02/29/donald-trump-georgia-rally-valdosta/81129964/).

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> You are missing the point. Is it your opinion that all Hillary supporters are _de facto_ protesters?

Was he a confirmed Hillary voter? Was he a protester? Was he a homeless person who wandered in to keep warm?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/514 "2016-03-17T14:28:07Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I’m not sure why I’m making the effort, but… There would also be people there who thought it would just be an interesting event to experience, and those who weren’t sure what all the fuss was about this Trump fellow and who wanted to find out for themselves, and people who weren’t much interested themselves but who went because a friend wanted to, or many other reasons why someone might attend a rally.

And they decided to stand between two groups of individuals who were shouting at each other??? Maybe these non-affiliated visiters just wanted a better view of the flying spittle?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/515 "2016-03-17T14:32:10Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Was he a confirmed Hillary voter? Was he a protester? Was he a homeless person who wandered in to keep warm?

In the absence of contradicting evidence, we have to take the word of the two men who were being ejected for standing there.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/516 "2016-03-17T14:34:26Z")

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He snuck in pretending to be white.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/517 "2016-03-17T17:22:15Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> In the absence of contradicting evidence, we have to take the word of the two men who were being ejected for standing there.

You are mischaracterizing what happened. In the interview you cited, the guy himself says that he was in a group of people that was having words with Trump supporters, and that the argument was attracting attention, and that’s what led to the removal.

What if a group of Trump supporters were to go to a Bernie rally and distract the crowd by getting into a boisterous argument with some berniebros? Would you be surprised and outraged if the organizers of the event kicked them out?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/518 "2016-03-17T18:54:13Z")

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I’m trying to picture Bernie Sanders saying, “I’d like to punch that guy in the face,” or “in the old days they would have carried that guy out on a stretcher,” and it’s just not tracking.

Not even with Larry David playing the part.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/519 "2016-03-18T01:35:29Z")

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> [@Hank\_Beecher](#):
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> The reason Trump rallies are the site of so much scuffling is that the media, the same media that is inadvertently driving Trump’s popularity in a quest for ratings and profit, is at the same time screaming in unison that Trump is Literally Hilter . . .

But, at his last rally, he kept saying, “Historically, Taunton is part of Minehead already!”

I don’t know why, but it made more sense than his usual material.

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**Author:** ![Hank\_Beecher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hank_beecher/32/7275_2.png) [@Hank\_Beecher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hank_Beecher)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanderss-supporters-brownshirts-stop-trump-rally-in-chicago/748710/520 "2016-03-19T17:21:19Z")

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[Bernshirts blocking road leading to Trump rally](https://mobile.twitter.com/Jacobnbc/status/711223838521073664)

Those vehicles should be considered abandoned, and donated to the Trump campaign.

And anyone who blocks public roadways for the purposes of denying Americans their right to peaceful assembly and political speech should do jail time, and be barred for life from getting student loans, grants, or jobs who’s salary is funded by tax dollars.

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