# Sandra Bland video **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 22, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859 "2015-07-22T05:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 93
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1841 "2015-08-20T15:32:14Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > What you appear to be having difficulty in understanding is that it’s the _person who makes the claim who has the obligation to “search”_ for support for that claim. > > _Challengers_ of that claim have no obligation whatsoever to search. The obligation rests squarely on the claimant (you, in this case). > > Again, the homework is _yours_ to do. We await your search results. (post shortened) You stated, “So **doorhinge** ’s claim that it’s “usual” for posters here to claim that the arresting officer murdered Bland would appear to remain short on supportive evidence.” I did not claim that it’s “usual” for posters “here” to claim that the arresting officer murdered Bland. People on the internet, which includes those mentioned in the linked articles posted in this thread, have accused the sheriff and jail staff of murdering Bland. That’s a fact. It’s been proven that everyone who had claimed that the police had murdered Bland, were wrong. That’s also a fact. In order to solve the puzzle of Sandra Bland’s suicide, I believe it’s important to include all of the possible reasons that might have influenced Bland’s decision. There’s the traffic stop, the arrest, the take down, the jail time, the job search, the move to another city, the recent loss of an unborn child, the self-cutting/attempted suicide, and not being able to find someone to post her bail. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1842 "2015-08-20T15:51:18Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I agree that the state is responsible for Sandra Bland’s care when in state custody. I’m also in favor of an official investigation into the matter. I reject the lynch-mob mentality of those who immediately condemned the police for murdering Sandra Bland. And I bow to your experience creating hobgoblins. You need bow to no one, sir. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1843 "2015-08-20T17:55:38Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > You need bow to no one, sir. But tilt at windmills all you like, fair **doorhinge**. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1844 "2015-08-26T17:25:08Z")
Talking of changing lanes, anyone watching the World Champs today? All I can say is Veronica Campbell-Brown is lucky the event isn’t taking place in Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1845 "2015-08-27T00:46:17Z")
So I’m seeing claims that the cause of Bland’s death has been changed from “suicide” to “homicide by strangulation,” but I can’t seem to find other sources. Anyone know anything about this or its context? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1846 "2015-08-27T00:54:15Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So I’m seeing claims that the cause of Bland’s death has been changed from “suicide” to “homicide by strangulation,” but I can’t seem to find other sources. Anyone know anything about this or its context? I am seeing claims of alien abductions. Anyone know anything about this? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1847 "2015-08-27T00:59:07Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So I’m seeing claims that the cause of Bland’s death has been changed from “suicide” to “homicide by strangulation,” but I can’t seem to find other sources. Anyone know anything about this or its context? Where are you seeing these claims? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1848 "2015-08-27T01:10:53Z")
Social media. Only I can’t find what I saw anymore because of the avalanche of news about the street on which she was arrested being renamed in her honor. But a few scattered bits of info seem to indicate that what I saw was a jumping of the gun, which I should’ve figured from the fact I couldn’t find anything on Google. I can’t be sure these were referring to the same story or original source, but for now, my apologies for the diversion. It was just so widespread at the time I saw it that I was wondering if something actually was happening in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1849 "2015-08-27T01:36:08Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Social media. Then it must be true! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1850 "2015-08-27T01:37:33Z")
Obviously, there was a link from there, an original source, but like a dummy I didn’t click on it. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1851 "2015-08-27T02:48:47Z")
At the point you reached “naming the street for her”, your bullshit detector should have pegged. I wonder if maybe the stories represent two opposing fantasy/disinformation sources. The story stressing murder stoking the suspicion and mistrust of black folks and the bullcrap about renaming the street mostly from crackers saying “Look, see how they are taking over everything!” Two different clumps of false, two streams of bullshit from entirely divergent sources. Guess somebody crossed the streams. Never a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1852 "2015-08-27T03:52:01Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > At the point you reached “naming the street for her”, your bullshit detector should have pegged. Why? According to those crackers from NPR, the street was “named for her.” > **[Street Where Sandra Bland Was Arrested Named After Her](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/26/434897243/street-where-sandra-bland-was-arrested-is-named-after-her)** > > Bland's mother and other supporters were present for Tuesday night's council vote. The roadway named in her honor leads to the college where she was about to begin a new job. ---
**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1853 "2015-08-27T04:40:43Z")
Yes, the street naming is legit. The “strangulation homicide” is a ct rumor that’s been on twitter for awhile now. Some diehards still retweet it every few days to keep it going. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1854 "2015-08-27T05:38:16Z")
Aha, thank you. That’ll teach me for my lapse in judgment. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1855 "2015-08-27T07:49:18Z")
“CT rumor” refers to “CT scan”, that is, a rumor about an alleged CT scan revealing a definitive anatomical fact that confirms her death was an intentional homicide? Or what? ---
**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1856 "2015-08-27T08:01:18Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “CT rumor” refers to “CT scan”, that is, a rumor about an alleged CT scan revealing a definitive anatomical fact that confirms her death was an intentional homicide? > > Or what? **C** onspiracy **T** heories. And the people who love them. First, they tweet something as “breaking news”. Then later on, they tweet how “suspicious” it is that the mainstream media is not covering it. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1857 "2015-08-27T11:36:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > At the point you reached “naming the street for her”, your bullshit detector should have pegged. The city council did in fact vote to rename the street for her. That’s a real thing. It happened. > **[Prairie View City Council OKs measure to rename street Sandra Bland Parkway](https://abc13.com/sandra-bland-march-prairie-view-am-death/956743/)** > > Hundreds of students, alumni, and friends marched on Tuesday to get a major street in Prairie View named after Sandra Bland, the woman who was found dead inside a Waller County Jail last month. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1858 "2015-08-27T11:44:41Z")
we know. See above. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1859 "2015-08-27T14:27:52Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > we know. See above. Er… yeah. What youse guys said. I should have read ahead to see if anyone else had corrected the error, but it was so wrong and delivered so confidently that I couldn’t resist. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1860 "2015-08-27T15:41:25Z")
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