# Sandy, a Hurricane? Poor Gloria, how soon they forget you, my dear...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 31, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401 "2012-10-31T06:20:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/41 "2012-11-02T00:35:54Z")

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Huh? WTF are you prattling on about? What “work”? Entire fucking communities have been washed away. Please go back under whatever bridge you came from.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/42 "2012-11-02T00:39:04Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Ok, I was wrong in the other thread. She never reached Cat 5, she only hit 4. And she was probably a 3 when she got to me. Still, that was in '85. NYC has seen worse. Much worse. Why everyone is freaking out about Sandy escapes me. It was _only_ 27 years ago. Surely at least your _parents_ mentioned that hurricane in '85??? Didn’t they??? And the ‘destruction’ is, of course, much less. Fuck, that thing is _still_ south of the PA/NY line. I’m gonna see it tomorrow. She might even go _over_ me. But, _fuck_, that ain’t much to deal with, after [G-L-O-R-I-A!!!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPDixDqAUh0)  
> [sub]Ya know, the dancing children at about 7.30 into that vid are _my_ age? Those kids are all growed up, and turning decrepit, like me! _Le Morrison est mort, Vive le Morrison!_[/sub]

Well, maybe. I walked 6 miles to work yesterday. And 6 miles back. And in again today, and now I’m on my way back to Brooklyn. And my building has no water. And when it does come back, it may be contaminated. And I have no electricity. And we had a fire in the building on Monday, caused by flooding shorting out stuff in the basement. Severe and expensive (“catastrophic” was the word used by the building manager) damage done. And the building was literally an island for a couple of days during high tide. Still, that’s better than some neighborhoods in Brooklyn, where you need a boat to get around. Not to mention the approximately 100 houses that burned down in Breezy Point, in Queens.

The lower part of Manhattan is still without electricity. Subways still can’t run through the tunnels under the East River (thus the walking).

Gloria? I was here. I got rained on. That’s about it.

Seriously, WTF? You have no clue as to what’s going on here.

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/43 "2012-11-02T01:37:57Z")

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Well, maybe. I walked 6 miles to work yesterday. And 6 miles back. And in again today, and now I’m on my way back to Brooklyn. And my building has no water. And when it does come back, it may be contaminated. And I have no electricity. And we had a fire in the building on Monday, caused by flooding shorting out stuff in the basement. Severe and expensive (“catastrophic” was the word used by the building manager) damage done. And the building was literally an island for a couple of days during high tide. Still, that’s better than some neighborhoods in Brooklyn, where you need a boat to get around. Not to mention the approximately 100 houses that burned down in Breezy Point, in Queens.
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> The lower part of Manhattan is still without electricity. Subways still can’t run through the tunnels under the East River (thus the walking).
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> Gloria? I was here. I got rained on. That’s about it.
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> Seriously, WTF? You have no clue as to what’s going on here.

Yes, my story:

I was young buck in Manhattan trying to prove my mettle in the corporate wars. I made it to work through the rain on the morning that Gloria passed through. The weather got worse so the company closed the office which was exactly the wrong thing to do. I made my way home on the subway (which still had the shabby, graffiti covered red cars) but it was still operating. The storm passed. That afternoon I was going for a run in Central Park experiencing the most pristine air of my life.

Gloria knocked out power in section of Long Island and places like Newport, RI. She eroded some beaches and there was some damage. It was miserable for those that were directly in the path but for those that weren’t it wasn’t a big deal. The storm surge was minimal. Gloria was nothing like what Sandy delivered.

The OP is like someone complaining about the pain of their hangnail and thinking it is worse than someone who has been hit by a truck and is on life support.

The carnage, loss of life and destruction of Katrina and Sandy have to be taken very seriously. Just last year we saw what Irene did to Vermont and it wasn’t a hurricane when it hit land. This is serious shit.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/44 "2012-11-02T02:42:57Z")

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I just had a friend confide in me today that his wife has cancer.

I missed my chance: I _SHOULD’VE_ started a long story about some random guy who had an unrelated disease twenty years ago.

That would’ve been much more comforting.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/45 "2012-11-02T03:48:59Z")

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This is the sort of thread I always kind of feel like bookmarking or something, just so that sometime in the future, if I happen to notice **Cheshire Human** acting like a douche in some other thread, I can look up exactly what sort of douche he is, and perhaps post a link to warn others who they’re dealing with. Just keep a file of posters who have lost all credibility and why. But that’s far more work than I’m willing to put into such a project, and might make me look like some sort of obsessive freak.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/46 "2012-11-02T04:26:54Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I just had a friend confide in me today that his wife has cancer.
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> I missed my chance: I _SHOULD’VE_ started a long story about some random guy who had an unrelated disease twenty years ago.
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> That would’ve been much more comforting.

I guess Cheshire’s work here isn’t done after all!

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/47 "2012-11-02T06:24:17Z")

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Hmmmm, maybe I’m mistaken, but the OP read to me as a parodying of all those who ACTUALLY claim that previous storms/disasters/economic crises/add your own event of note are **always** worse than the current one. Not only are the disasters worse by a magnitude of whatever, the communities nowadays are woefully less equipped to cope. Y’know the deal, 'Back in MY day…etc"

I didn’t get the vibe that **Cheshire Human** was **personally** promoting a Gloria Vs Sandy duel, just riffing on the mentality that could or would do that.

Of course, I might be wrong. I have been just once or twice in my life. 😃

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/48 "2012-11-02T11:06:34Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> \<snip\>Yes. I don’t think that’s going to be a large number of people if there are any.

When Cyclone Tracey hit Darwin there was a large hippie style population living on the beaches (when I say large probably 100) and it was very difficult to work out how many actually disappeared or were unaccounted for. However, that was a totally different scenario in that there was virtually no warning. (A lot of this is anecdotal from friends working in Darwin at the time. The stories are harrowing).

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/49 "2012-11-02T13:07:05Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> My work here is done. ‘sigh’…

Thanks so much. We’ll call you when we need more work from you. Farewell. Buh bye.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/50 "2012-11-02T13:12:46Z")

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So, uh … was his work making Rush Limbaugh sound sad, or desperate? Or to make me laugh?

I’m so confused by this thread, but hey, at least I lived through Gloria, huh?

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**Author:** ![Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4bbf92/32.png) [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heart_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/51 "2012-11-02T13:34:28Z")

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Guys. I admit, it wasn’t entirely clear to me at the beginning, but I’m pretty sure that this:

> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> My work here is done. ‘sigh’…

…means “whooooooosh.” In other words:

> [@kambuckta](#):
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> I didn’t get the vibe that **Cheshire Human** was **personally** promoting a Gloria Vs Sandy duel, just riffing on the mentality that could or would do that.

> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> So, uh … was his work making Rush Limbaugh sound sad, or desperate? Or to make me laugh?

I’m thinking a little from Column A, a little from Column B. Maybe not “making” Rush sound that way; just noting that he does, and mocking him for it.

But I could be wrong. It’s already 9:30 and I haven’t been wrong yet today, so I _am_ a bit overdue.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/52 "2012-11-03T22:05:58Z")

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Fuck all of you who think I was ‘safe’ during Gloria. I found out the hard way that I could be killed by things I couldn’t even see coming. And they could come from _anywhere_.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/53 "2012-11-03T22:10:42Z")

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> [@cheshire human](#):
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> fuck all of you who think i was ‘safe’ during gloria. I found out the hard way that i could be killed by things i couldn’t even see coming. And they could come from _anywhere_.

_Behind you!!!_

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**Author:** ![Bilbo1967](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@Bilbo1967](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bilbo1967)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/54 "2012-11-03T22:20:02Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Fuck all of you who think I was ‘safe’ during Gloria. I found out the hard way that I could be killed by things I couldn’t even see coming. And they could come from _anywhere_.

It would appear that **Cheshire Human** is posting from the other side! Surely that’s worthy of our respect?

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/55 "2012-11-03T22:51:45Z")

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> [@Bilbo1967](#):
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> It would appear that **Cheshire Human** is posting from the other side! Surely that’s worthy of our respect?

Fornicate a cactus.

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**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/56 "2012-11-03T23:01:19Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Fornicate a cactus.

Insert said cactus up your rectum.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/57 "2012-11-04T02:46:17Z")

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Ouch. That’s prickly!

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/58 "2012-11-04T02:54:32Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Fuck all of you who think I was ‘safe’ during Gloria. I found out the hard way that I could be killed by things I couldn’t even see coming. And they could come from _anywhere_.

You were mugged?

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/59 "2012-11-04T03:02:03Z")

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It’s really kind of bizarre. There was very little rain, and the winds didn’t seem as strong or long lasting as even Irene. But the damage is much worse than any hurricane I’ve lived through in the northeast. NYC is at least explained by the rare surge that created excessive flooding. But on Long Island there is also much more loss of power and a gas shortage the likes of which I’ve never encountered and which is still ongoing. So while the storm itself seemed more mild, it’s effects have been less easily dismissed.

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**Author:** ![Bilbo1967](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@Bilbo1967](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bilbo1967)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandy-a-hurricane-poor-gloria-how-soon-they-forget-you-my-dear/639401/60 "2012-11-04T20:08:52Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Fornicate a cactus.

And he’s channeling the spirit of Oscar Wilde!

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