# Sanford defeats Colbert's sister **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 8, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758 "2013-05-08T01:30:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/61 "2013-05-09T23:37:26Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Note, please, that my post was a conditional. IF it were true. I don’t believe that it’s true, I’m just saying that even _ **IF** _ it were true, the GOP was ecstatic over Citizens United and that’s what Citizens United was ABOUT. Right. I was talking about the unsupported accusations **doorhinge** made, not your post. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/62 "2013-05-10T00:21:46Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > See the mod note above. Noted. That sort of nonsense just gets my dander up, is all. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/63 "2013-05-10T14:55:51Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > What did Colbert-Busch offer the voters besides being Stephen Colbert’s sister? That’s not a very good reason for voting for anyone. > [@doorhinge](#): > > Sounds like maybe Colbert-Busch believed that everyone would think that she was as much a gift to the voters as she thought she was. Surprise! > > **I wonder if** this is how her brother’s comedy PAC money was spent? Kick starting his sister’s losing campaign? > [@doorhinge](#): > > Stephen Colbert said that Stephen Colbert donated the money to charity. > > The Washington Post reported that Stephen Colbert donated the money to charity based on Stephen Colbert statement. > > Is there any “other” proof that the money actually went to these charities? > [@doorhinge](#): > > I asked a simple question. See **Marley23** ’s response for a more informed, better formulated response. > [@Marley23](#): > > Of course you could have looked for the answer yourself **before implying something untoward was going on** , but… > [@Marley23](#): > > Right. I was talking about the **unsupported accusations** **doorhinge** made, not your post. (Bolding added) What “unsupported accusations” did I make? Yes, I could have looked elsewhere for an answer to my query about the comedian Colbert’s PAC. I chose to inquiry on a website that claims to fight ignorance since 1973. Was that the wrong choice? I don’t follow Colbert’s comedy routines as closely as others seem to do. Please forgive me. Colbert-Busch didn’t get elected because she didn’t get enough voters to vote for her. Whatever it was that she offered the voters wasn’t enough to convince a majority of voters that she should be elected. Even the title of this thread suggests that Colbert-Busch is best known for being someone’s relative - **Sanford defeats Colbert’s sister**. That’s still not a very good reason for voting for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/64 "2013-05-10T15:18:29Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > What “unsupported accusations” did I make? > [@doorhinge](#): > > I wonder if this is how her brother’s comedy PAC money was spent? Kick starting his sister’s losing campaign? > [@doorhinge](#): > > Stephen Colbert said that Stephen Colbert donated the money to charity. > > The Washington Post reported that Stephen Colbert donated the money to charity based on Stephen Colbert statement. > > Is there any “other” proof that the money actually went to these charities? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/65 "2013-05-10T15:36:13Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > :rolleyes: That’s not an answer. (Or is it?) \*Accusation - a statement saying that someone has done something morally wrong, illegal, or unkind, or the fact of accusing someone. Query - a question, often expressing doubt about something or looking for an answer from an authority. Question - a sentence or phrase used to find out information\*. What “unsupported accusations” did I actually make? I’m asking for your assistance to better understand the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/66 "2013-05-10T15:53:55Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > That’s not an answer. (Or is it?) It’s an answer, and it’s all the answer this deserves. There was no evidence he bankrolled the campaign, and no evidence that all the reports and announcements about the donation were false. I’m not impressed by the “I’m Just Asking Questions” defense. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/67 "2013-05-10T15:54:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Even the title of this thread suggests that Colbert-Busch is best known for being someone’s relative - Sanford defeats Colbert’s sister. That’s still not a very good reason for voting for anyone. It worked well enough for George W. Bush. And for John Q. Adams and Benjamin Harrison, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/68 "2013-05-10T16:54:43Z")
Didn’t go over so well for poor David Hitler though. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/69 "2013-05-10T17:01:16Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > It’s an answer, and it’s all the answer this deserves. There was no evidence he bankrolled the campaign, and no evidence that all the reports and announcements about the donation were false. I’m not impressed by the “I’m Just Asking Questions” defense. I’m not interested in “impressing” you. I made no “unsupported accusations”. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/70 "2013-05-10T17:08:30Z")
n/m ---
**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/71 "2013-05-10T18:04:07Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > He did. He said he was hiking the Appalachian Trail. I thought he said he was going to be on some Argentinian Tail! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/72 "2013-05-11T13:24:42Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I’m not interested in “impressing” you. I made no “unsupported accusations”. Would you prefer ‘sleazy insinuations’? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/73 "2013-05-11T19:45:07Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Would you prefer ‘sleazy insinuations’? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/74 "2013-05-11T20:45:01Z")
Rather fond of lewd suggestions, myself. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/75 "2013-05-12T03:09:18Z")
Looks like the health care law might have been the reason for Sanford’s victory: [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/05/12/obamacare\_propels\_mark\_sanford\_back\_into\_office\_118373.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/05/12/obamacare_propels_mark_sanford_back_into_office_118373.html) Hopefully the health care law will be a big issue in the 2014 elections. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/76 "2013-05-13T15:23:42Z")
Hopefully the GOP will do what that editorial writer suggests and _try to appeal to women by pledging to repeal Obamacare_. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/77 "2013-05-13T16:16:04Z")
If Obamacare raises womens’ premiums a lot, it won’t be a hard sell. Once 2014 comes, the excuses won’t wash anymore. Obamacare either succeeds or fails. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/78 "2013-05-13T16:23:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Looks like the health care law might have been the reason for Sanford’s victory: I doubt it, and not just because the source of this “data” is a group that spent $250,000 for Sanford. > [@](#): > > Just who were these late-deciding voters? Republicans and Independents, mostly. According to the survey, 90 percent of Democrats made up their minds before the last week. And Democrats as a whole voted 92-4 percent for Colbert Busch. But fully 20 percent of voters who said they almost always vote Republican waited until the last week to decide – and they broke 88-8 percent for Sanford. Sanford won because he’s the Republican and it’s a very Republican district, not because of the health care law. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/79 "2013-05-13T18:34:08Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Once 2014 comes, the excuses won’t wash anymore. Obamacare either succeeds or fails. And conservatives will declare it a failure on January 1, regardless of empirical evidence. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758/80 "2013-05-14T04:26:04Z")
True. However, the public will judge who is right by their own experiences with the law. I figure that anyone who sees a 30%+ premium increase, anyone who has to pay the penalty, or anyone whose hours get cut, or any business owner whose income gets cut will be pretty motivated, and that’s what happens if the law is working. If it goes bad, then you get all the bad stuff without the good stuff that creates voters wanting to protect their benefits. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sanford-defeats-colberts-sister/657758.md?page=3)