# Santa delivers a present to the "fake pimp" O'keefe. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488 "2010-09-29T16:50:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/1 "2010-09-29T16:50:30Z")
Well, not **the** Santa, but O’keefe just found a being that he also could had thought that it never existed: A conservative with ethics in his own media organization: > [@](#): > > Fake pimp from ACORN videos tries to ‘punk’ CNN correspondent > [@](#): > > For months, CNN had been following a group of young conservative activists, including Christian Hartsock, the director of the music video. The activists will be featured in a documentary, “Right On The Edge,” that will air October 2 and 3. > > Hartsock said O’Keefe did not want CNN to shoot on the set of the music video, but said he would encourage O’Keefe to call CNN to discuss the request. > > O’Keefe called Boudreau on August 10. During the conversation, he said he preferred that Boudreau meet him in person in Maryland and asked that she come alone. > > “I just want to talk,” O’Keefe told Boudreau on the phone. “I just want to have a, you know, meeting with you, and talk to you face to face about this. Because, I don’t, I feel sort of, let’s just say reserved about, about letting people into my sort of inner sanctum, about letting, letting people sort of take a glimpse into, into, behind the scenes, so that’s why you know, I just feel more comfortable if it was just me and you and we just had a face-to-face meeting before I agree to, to let you guys come out and shoot the video shoot out there.” > > The phone call was recorded without Boudreau’s knowledge, but CNN obtained a copy of the recording after O’Keefe e-mailed it to friends and colleagues. Boudreau agreed to the meeting, which she understood would be in his office. > > “The purpose of the meeting was to explain [the CNN story] in person to James,” Boudreau said. > > **CNN was forwarded an e-mail, sent from O’Keefe’s e-mail address, to the executive director of Project Veritas, Izzy Santa** ; and two conservative activists, Ben Wetmore of New Orleans and Jonathon Burns of St. Louis, Missouri, dated after the call with Boudreau. > > “Getting Closer,” the e-mail states. “Audio attached conversation with Abbie. What do you think of her reaction guys. She said she could do it Monday, Tuesday. Ben, you think I could get her on the boat?” > > Boudreau flew to Baltimore, Maryland, on August 17, rented a car, and drove to suburban Lusby, where O’Keefe wanted to meet. O’Keefe sent a text message to Boudreau that morning, saying that Santa would meet her when she got there. > > When Boudreau arrived at the address, a house located on a tributary of the Patuxent River, Santa approached her with a tape recorder in her hand and said she wanted to talk in the car, Boudreau said. > > “I noticed she had a little bit of dirt on her face, her lip was shaking, she seemed really uncomfortable and I asked her if she was OK,” Boudreau said. “The first thing she basically said to me was, ‘I’m not recording you, I’m not recording you. Are you recording me?’ I said, ‘No, I’m not recording you,’ and she showed me her digital recorder and it was not recording.” > > **Santa told Boudreau that O’Keefe planned to “punk” her by getting on a boat where hidden cameras were set up.** Boudreau said she would not get on the boat and asked Santa why O’Keefe wanted her there. That ethical behavior deserves commendations, No? > [@](#): > > CNN traveled to Pasadena, California, for the music video shoot involving O’Keefe, but was not permitted on set. Since the Maryland incident, O’Keefe has transferred all of Santa’s duties to one of the Project Veritas directors. > > Santa’s attorney, Christopher Markham, told CNN that Santa “didn’t want what could have happened to occur. She thought it may have been a threat to the organization, and didn’t want it to happen to [Boudreau].” > > Markham said even though Santa’s duties were taken away from her, she is still on the Project Veritas payroll. Uh, not in Right wing world it seems, somehow I think the career of this O’keefe bozo will continue while Santa will be eventually dismissed. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/2 "2010-09-29T17:10:56Z")
[Reposting what I said in the original Acorn pimp thread] The stupidity of this plan is mind boggling. Did he really think he was going to be able to seduce her? I don’t know what’s more obnoxious, O’Keefe’s fantastically delusional arrogance in thinking he could get the time of day from this reporter, much less “seduce” her, or the staggering misogyny inherent in his words. She’s an award winning journalist. What makes her a “bubble headed bleach blonde” (and if he really has a problem with those, has he ever seen Fox News)? And his entire justification for the stunt was based on a completely baseless allegation that CNN was out to get him somehow, that “I know what their angle is: they want to portray me and my friends as crazies, as non-journalists, as unprofessional and likely as homophobes, racists or bigots of some sort…” First of all, he’s already done a great job of portraying himself as all those things (let’s not forget about the white supremacist rally he helped organize and where he was photographed manning a table of neo-nazi literature), and second of all, he had no basis at all for deciding that CNN was going to be unfair or inaccurate about him. Frankly, I think he’s lucky his own confederate tipped off the CNN reporter about what he was planning to try because he was setting himself up for potential sexual assault charges. What a fucking slimeball this kid is. Just a diseased, mentally ill, little worm. it’s only a matter of time before he lands himself in jail again. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/3 "2010-09-29T17:18:41Z")
I’m stymied. Even assuming for a moment that he could have been successful, what would have been the point? What would he have been exposing, apart from himself? Was it the idea that she as a reporter would have been unethical for having sex with someone involved in a story that she was reporting on? I mean, sure, that’s not ethical, but I don’t think people in the public at large would be terribly surprised or troubled by it. Maybe if it were Katie Couric or someone of that stature, but I’m just not seeing it. It kind of sounds more like some juvenile’s idea of a plan to get someone to have sex with him. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/4 "2010-09-29T17:19:52Z")
Or before he “punks” the wrong person and finds his #2 pencil neck broken in five places. Which would be terrible and a tragedy, because violence is always wrong. A couple of the user comments to the CNN article are actually pretty funny… > [@GranolaNerd](#): > > This plot reads like some backwards college comedy, except instead of the lovable underdogs, it is the conceited rich jerks who cook up a ZANY plan to win the day-- in this case “punking” a professional woman doing her job. Well done douchebags. > [@rescue](#): > > LOL yeah, in a movie, O’Keefe would be played by David Spade! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/5 "2010-09-29T17:32:02Z")
And I just realized I forgot the link, here it is: > **[Fake pimp from ACORN videos tries to 'punk' CNN correspondent - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/29/okeefe.cnn.prank/?hpt=T2)** > > A conservative activist known for making undercover videos plotted to embarrass a CNN correspondent by recording a meeting on hidden cameras aboard a floating "palace of pleasure" and making sexually suggestive comments, e-mails and a planning... ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/6 "2010-09-29T17:35:04Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The stupidity of this plan is mind boggling. Did he really think he was going to be able to seduce her? I don’t know what’s more obnoxious, O’Keefe’s fantastically delusional arrogance in thinking he could get the time of day from this reporter, much less “seduce” her, or the staggering misogyny inherent in his words. The idea was to make her uncomfortable with a clumsy fake seduction attempt and leaving sex toys and stuff lying around, record the whole thing, and pass it around on the internet to “get back” at CNN for having the nerve to give his people an hour of nationwide exposure. He’s basically doing what the Daily Show would do if TDS were moronic, unfunny, and hyperpartisan. It’s not as bad as the ACORN thing but this guy has proved he’s a dipshit and a one-trick pony. He must be pretty desperate if he’s moved from targeting political groups and politicians to going after a reporter who was already covering him. And yes, Izzy Santa (who is a woman, judging by the story) did the right thing. Not all conservatives need to be assholes like O’Keefe. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/7 "2010-09-29T17:57:01Z")
His plan was to edit the footage to make Boudreau look like a puppy-raping terrorist. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/8 "2010-09-29T17:57:34Z")
I credit the name – Izzy Santa. Sounds like Christmas at Slash’s house. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/9 "2010-09-29T18:02:10Z")
Anybody know how Fox is playing this? It should be good. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/10 "2010-09-29T18:03:40Z")
> [@descamisado](#): > > Anybody know how Fox is playing this? It should be good. CNN Out To Smear A Hero? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/11 "2010-09-29T18:15:03Z")
Hero Activist Cock-blocked by RINO Hosebag ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/12 "2010-09-29T18:22:38Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > The stupidity of this plan is mind boggling. Did he really think he was going to be able to seduce her? I don’t know what’s more obnoxious, O’Keefe’s fantastically delusional arrogance in thinking he could get the time of day from this reporter, much less “seduce” her, or the staggering misogyny inherent in his words. > > The idea was to make her uncomfortable with a clumsy fake seduction attempt and leaving sex toys and stuff lying around, record the whole thing, and pass it around on the internet to “get back” at CNN for having the nerve to give his people an hour of nationwide exposure. I don’t see how that would have made _her_ look bad, though. It would have just made him look like a sleaze. What could he have imagined it would have proven about her? Chances are, she would never would have even gotten on the boat with him, but even if she did, she would have told him to fuck off and walked away the second she saw the sex toys and shit. I got the impression he was deluded enough to think he was actually going to be able to get somewhere with her. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/13 "2010-09-29T18:27:32Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > [@Marley23](#): > > > > The idea was to make her uncomfortable with a clumsy fake seduction attempt and leaving sex toys and stuff lying around, record the whole thing, and pass it around on the internet to “get back” at CNN for having the nerve to give his people an hour of nationwide exposure. > > I don’t see how that would have made _her_ look bad, though. It would have just made him look like a sleaze. What could he have imagined it would have proven about her? I don’t think it would have proved anything. He was out to embarrass her (apparently for covering that music video shoot when he didn’t want her to), that’s all. The story makes it clear he was not actually trying to seduce her, since his own unused video script says “I’m going to punk CNN.” ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/14 "2010-09-29T18:30:43Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > > [@descamisado](#): > > > > Anybody know how Fox is playing this? It should be good. > > CNN Out To Smear A Hero? Although this is the first time I’ve ever gone to Foxnews’ website deliberately, I can’t find a single mention of this latest O’Keefe thing. I did a search for “James O’Keefe” and the only thing that came up was the ACORN smear job video. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/15 "2010-09-29T18:31:50Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > [Reposting what I said in the original Acorn pimp thread] > > The stupidity of this plan is mind boggling. Did he really think he was going to be able to seduce her? _Seduce?_ ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/16 "2010-09-29T19:10:54Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I don’t think it would have proved anything. He was out to embarrass her (apparently for covering that music video shoot when he didn’t want her to), that’s all. The story makes it clear he was not actually trying to seduce her, since his own unused video script says “I’m going to punk CNN.” Right - The idea apparently was to do an over-the-top _“Laideez Man”_ schtick that would lead to footage of her getting angry or at least flustered and walking away, so he could then lay down some sort of moral equivalence to the effect that HER journalism is not serious either but just a set-up to make conservatives feel uncomfortable/look bad, so it’s fair payback to put one of “them” in an awkward situation, and BTW if she can’t take the heat she should stay out of the kitchen, silly girl. The objective was apparently to derail the story she was doing about them(\*) by turning it into a story about her running away from an awkward moment, with a bonus opportunity to go _ha, ha, ha, them PC liberals so full of themselves can dish it out but can’t take it, get all so freaked out over a crude joke, us real down-to-earth 'murkins can just brush off a crude joke and be good sports about it…_ (\*that goal may have been achieved anyway!) In the leaked planning e-mails there were apparently a lot of references to focusing on a message that she got her job primarily as eye candy (“the bleached-blond bubblehead who comes on at five”) and that CNN deliberately assigned an attractive young female reporter to the story so as to make him lower his guard (oh how fiendishly clever!). All right, dude, we’ll send Mike Wallace then instead, will that make you happy? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/17 "2010-09-29T19:22:37Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > In the leaked planning e-mails there were apparently a lot of references to focusing on a message that she got her job primarily as eye candy (“the bleached-blond bubblehead who comes on at five”) and that CNN deliberately assigned an attractive young female reporter to the story so as to make him lower his guard (oh how fiendishly clever!). All right, dude, we’ll send Mike Wallace then instead, will that make you happy? Pff, they screwed up the lyrics. _The bubbleheaded bleached-blonde comes on at 5 She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye It’s interesting when people die Give us dirty laundry_ And it’s not like O’Keefe’s patron Fox News _ever_ hires people with more looks than skill, no sir. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/18 "2010-09-29T19:25:17Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > [Reposting what I said in the original Acorn pimp thread] > > > > The stupidity of this plan is mind boggling. Did he really think he was going to be able to seduce her? > > _Seduce?_ That was his word. “I’m going to seduce her.” That was his big plan. The farce is strong in this one. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/19 "2010-09-29T19:38:36Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > And it’s not like O’Keefe’s patron Fox News _ever_ hires people with more looks than skill, no sir. Is Gretchen Carlson more attractive than skilled, or more skilled than attractive? …That’s not a rhetorical question, I’m really stumped. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/20 "2010-09-29T19:53:07Z")
> [@descamisado](#): > > > [@Bosstone](#): > > > > CNN Out To Smear A Hero? > > Although this is the first time I’ve ever gone to Foxnews’ website deliberately, I can’t find a single mention of this latest O’Keefe thing. > > I did a search for “James O’Keefe” and the only thing that came up was the ACORN smear job video. They must be in league with MSNBC, because it’s not on their web site either. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488.md?page=2)