# Santa delivers a present to the "fake pimp" O'keefe. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488 "2010-09-29T16:50:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/61 "2010-10-02T16:34:09Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I credit the name – Izzy Santa. Sounds like Christmas at Slash’s house. It does! ROFL. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/62 "2010-10-02T16:54:54Z")
Dear Izzy Santa, Please bring me a Marshall full stack, an AFD Les Paul, and some serious Slash Tone for Axlmas. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/63 "2010-10-02T17:20:41Z")
Breitbart has finally weighed in. And surprisingly he’s not too pleased. > **[James O'Keefe's Sex Dungeon Boat Stunt Too Gross for Andrew Breitbart](https://www.gawker.com/5653907/james-okeefes-sex-dungeon-boat-stunt-too-gross-for-andrew-breitbart)** > > Here we were thinking conservative screamy dude Andrew Breitbart was a reality-distorting robot incapable of feeling shame. But his protege James O'Keefe's creepy plan to trap a "hot blonde" CNN reporter on his love boat was too much for Breitbart. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/64 "2010-10-02T17:39:19Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The handcuffs and blindfold are implied threats of sexual assault. But they were _fuzzy_ handcuffs. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/65 "2010-10-02T18:11:00Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > The handcuffs and blindfold are implied threats of sexual assault. > > Bit of a stretch, _não é_? Are the candles an implied threat of arson? Arson is not the purpose for which candles are intended. Confinement is the only purpose for which handcuffs are intended. Of course, they are often used consensually, and their mere presence in a private room is obviously not _ipso facto_ evidence of an attempt to commit a sexual assault, but this is a case where they were intended to be displayed in a context in which an unsuspecting target was already being surprised by unwanted sexual overtures and harrassment, in a setting where she would be alone with an aggressor. The open display of bondage equipment in this already unwanted and non-consensual situation, in my opinion, could well be seen as a suggestion that Keefe was prepared to go to even more coersive lengths. I certainly think that it would not make the unwilling target of this “prank” (who is not in a position to know exactly how crazy this aggressor really is, or how far he’s willing to go) feel very safe. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/66 "2010-10-03T19:32:22Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > The handcuffs and blindfold are implied threats of sexual assault. > > But they were _fuzzy_ handcuffs. What, no mention of the comfy chair? Had O’queef (yeah, that was childish. Bite me.) made any statement yet? What about the Right Wing Marketing Machine? Have _any_ of them revisited his Acorn Antics? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/67 "2010-10-03T19:38:21Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > > [@Biggirl](#): > > > > But they were _fuzzy_ handcuffs. > > What, no mention of the comfy chair? > Had O’queef (yeah, that was childish. Bite me.) made any statement yet? > > What about the Right Wing Marketing Machine? Have _any_ of them revisited his Acorn Antics? My guess is, he will be the poor poor victim of the liberal media hate machine 'spiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Peeta\_Mellark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Peeta\_Mellark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peeta_Mellark)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/68 "2010-10-03T19:42:58Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > > > Bit of a stretch, _não é_? Are the candles an implied threat of arson? > > Arson is not the purpose for which candles are intended. Confinement is the only purpose for which handcuffs are intended. > > Of course, they are often used consensually, and their mere presence in a private room is obviously not _ipso facto_ evidence of an attempt to commit a sexual assault, but this is a case where they were intended to be displayed in a context in which an unsuspecting target was already being surprised by unwanted sexual overtures and harrassment, in a setting where she would be alone with an aggressor. The open display of bondage equipment in this already unwanted and non-consensual situation, in my opinion, could well be seen as a suggestion that Keefe was prepared to go to even more coersive lengths. I certainly think that it would not make the unwilling target of this “prank” (who is not in a position to know exactly how crazy this aggressor really is, or how far he’s willing to go) feel very safe. I really have to agree with **Dio** here. Unless there’s some agreement ahead of time, you don’t seduce a woman with handcuffs and a blindfold. Especially not after luring her into a situation she would have difficulty escaping from and surrounding her with pornography, making the situation explicitly sexual. That’s pretty threatening. Does it mean that he was planning to rape her? No. But I think that would be a reasonable fear for a woman in that situation. If you both agree to kink there are uses for blindfolds and handcuffs, but their primary purpose is to restrain and blind someone. Those aren’t entirely innocuous or meaningless items. ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/69 "2010-10-05T11:54:26Z")
Our intrepid young conservative says it was [meant to be “satire.”](http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/04/okeefe.cnn.prank/index.html?hpt=T2) > [@](#): > > “When the CNN idea was pitched to me, I’ll admit that I liked the basic absurdity of meeting Abbie Boudreau on a boat and the idea of counter-seduction satire executed in a tame, humorous, non-threatening manner,” O’Keefe said. "After all, as all liberal reporters do, she was trying to “seduce” (a metaphor) me so she could get more for her story. It would be fun, I thought, to turn the tables in jest. I suppose this idea was a natural extension of his pimp persona. Kids these days are so inventive. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/70 "2010-10-05T13:28:15Z")
What a dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/71 "2010-10-05T13:36:29Z")
It took him five days to come up with the shite? I love how he made sure to get the word “non-threatening” in there. Covering your dumb, boney, redneck ass much, O’Keefe? That’ll only fly with his staunchest base and even Bozell and Breitbart have condemned him for this one, that ought to tell you something. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488/72 "2010-10-05T13:42:55Z")
Again that word ‘seduce’. I realize he might not have a lot of experience with women, but just because one is talking to you doesn’t mean she’s flirting with you, James. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santa-delivers-a-present-to-the-fake-pimp-okeefe/555488.md?page=3)