# "Santa's not coming"? PETA does it again. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 10, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116 "2003-12-10T07:20:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/21 "2003-12-10T16:08:29Z")
Ironically, I’ve read that soy can actually lower testosterone levels. After some Googling, it appears there may not be any trustworthy evidence for this, but on the other hand, it doesn’t strike me as any sillier than PETA’s claim. Besides, I thought Santa only comes once a year anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/22 "2003-12-10T16:17:10Z")
I, too, don’t understand why PETA does this. It’s not like their silly, lowbrow jokes ever get them tons of attention or feed their desire to be viewed as bad boys. It’s not like every time they come up with a way to tweak meat-eaters, meat-eaters oblige them by acting all tweaked. What could they possibly be gaining from these stunts? There’s a reason, folks, why I quit tormenting the street-corner Jesus crispies: _I figured out that they wanted to be tormented_. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/23 "2003-12-10T16:18:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Besides, I thought Santa only comes once a year anyway. Well, Mrs. Claus needs to get a present too. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/24 "2003-12-10T16:26:47Z")
We know that milk-related impotence is a serious problem because the human race, having consumed milk for thousands of years, no longer exists. ---
**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/25 "2003-12-10T16:39:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Thudlow Boink \* > \*\*Besides, I thought Santa only comes once a year anyway. \*\* …and even then, it’s down a chimney! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/26 "2003-12-10T16:40:30Z")
In honor of PETA and their efforts on my behalf, I shall do my best to devour as many different animals as possible in the next week. If you want to earn my respect and get my attention, then just be vegetarian and LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!!! All the billboards and actions by you nutcases just make me stubborn. Kill A Cow For Jebus. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/27 "2003-12-10T16:43:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\*Won’t anyone think of the reindeer? \*\* Forget that, won’t someone _please_ think of Mrs. Claus? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/28 "2003-12-10T16:45:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > Won’t anyone think of the reindeer? MMmmmm…reindeer burgers… With BBQ PETA sauce…mmm… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/29 "2003-12-10T16:46:04Z")
I say we leave a turducken on PETA headquarters doorstep on Christmas Eve. Three! Three! Three times the horror! ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/30 "2003-12-10T16:51:07Z")
WATCH OUT! MILK WILL KILL YOU INSTANTLY! ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/31 "2003-12-10T16:56:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\*WATCH OUT! MILK WILL KILL YOU INSTANTLY! \*\* Please pass this on to ten of your friends, otherwise Santa will die, too, and it’ll be _your_ fault. Also, Bill Gates will give you money. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/32 "2003-12-10T17:03:56Z")
Milk really will kill you straight away, every time. If you’re reading this and have drunk milk in the past, you got lucky - stop drinking it now or it will kill you straight away. It’s nothing to do with my feelings about cruelty to cows, it’s all about deadly milk! ---
**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/33 "2003-12-10T17:08:34Z")
This reminds me of something I swear must have been a very funny anti-liberal joke. We have a couple of talk radio stations here that tend to be rather conservative, one of which even calls itself “Austin’s Conservative Voice”. Well, there’s some syndicated conservative talk show on that station, I can’t remember which one. One day the host couldn’t make it in, and as the guest host they brought on a liberal writer for TIME magazine who had never hosted anything in his life and his guest was a high-ranking official at PETA. The conservatives of this nation REALLY had at these people, especially when the PETA lady was proudly telling stories of harassing people at grocery stores and restaurants. Can you just imagine how hard the programming directors must have been laughing? How did they pitch the idea with a straight face? Man, that cracked me up. LC ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/34 "2003-12-10T17:15:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\*It’s nothing to do with my feelings about cruelty to cows, it’s all about deadly milk! \*\* You’re right. Talking about the cows is just a moo point. [sub]Unless you’re _not_ talking–in which case it’s just a mute point.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![wireless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f14d63/32.png) [@wireless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wireless)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/35 "2003-12-10T17:22:42Z")
From [here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3283047.stm) > [@](#): > > [PETA] has delayed an ad campaign making fun of singer Clay Aiken while it waits to see if he apologises for remarks made about cats. > > The American Idol runner-up recently told Rolling Stone magazine: “There’s nothing worse to me than a house cat.” > > … (Peta) has prepared an ad campaign with the slogan \*\*Get Neutered, It Didn’t Hurt Clay Aiken. \*\* > > But the group says it will modify the ad if Aiken addresses its grievances. They’re basically blackmailing him into supporting their cause. I mean, I’m not a Clay Aiken fan, but basically he only said he doesn’t like house cats, not that he was going to torture them and then make them into _hors d’oevres_. My take is that PETA is one of those groups where the people who run it are more interested in impressing the others in the (usually small) group with their loyalty to the “cause” in some kind of competition for “who can be the most dedicated” than actually advancing its stated objectives. They may impress each other, but they seem to be alientating just about everyone else on the planet. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/36 "2003-12-10T17:23:36Z")
SkipMagic - That’s just a bunch of bull! ---
**Author:** ![eli\_the\_fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@eli\_the\_fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eli_the_fanatic)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/37 "2003-12-10T17:27:50Z")
Turduken: [http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200312/df20031210.jpg](http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200312/df20031210.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/38 "2003-12-10T17:28:20Z")
\*\* > [@](#): > > “Santa’s not coming”? PETA does it again. \*\* Santa got in trouble with PETA for choking his chicken. That’s why he’s not coming. Ba dum bump…thank you thank you, I’ll be here all week. Try the _veal!_ 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/39 "2003-12-10T17:29:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wireless \* > \*\*From [here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3283047.stm) > > They’re basically blackmailing him into supporting their cause. > > I mean, I’m not a Clay Aiken fan, but basically he only said he doesn’t like house cats, not that he was going to torture them and then make them into _hors d’oevres_. > > My take is that PETA is one of those groups where the people who run it are more interested in impressing the others in the (usually small) group with their loyalty to the “cause” in some kind of competition for “who can be the most dedicated” than actually advancing its stated objectives. They may impress each other, but they seem to be alientating just about everyone else on the planet. \*\* Now they’re picking on Clay Aiken? So sad. You’ve nailed it, **wireless**. Except for when they do extremely outlandish things like what’s in the OP, I think the only people who pay attention to PETA are the members of PETA. ---
**Author:** ![eli\_the\_fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@eli\_the\_fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eli_the_fanatic)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116/40 "2003-12-10T17:35:15Z")
I think this makes a point the right way, humor and information: > **[People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA)](https://www.peta.org/)** > > PETA exposes animals suffering in laboratories, in the food industry, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment industry. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santas-not-coming-peta-does-it-again/218116.md?page=3)