# Santorum - Boston liberalism cause of priest scandal.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333 "2005-07-13T13:58:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/101 "2005-07-15T00:37:12Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Yeh. I know just what you mean. Hell, even Nixon is looking better by comparison.

No kidding. Nixon publicly proclaimed he was a Keynesian in terms of economic policy and established the EPA during his administration. Can you imagine anybody in the Bush Administration doing anything like that now? Also, Tricky Dick’s proposed medical plan was far more liberal than anything the current Republicans (or even Bill Clinton) ever advocated.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/102 "2005-07-17T15:34:09Z")

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What diocese in the U.S has the most priest abuse lawsuits? The liberalism hotbed of [Covington, KY](http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2002/06/09/loc_1ky_dioceses_lead_u_s.html), which [supported George W Bush](http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/politicalInfo.php?locIndex=3880) in the last two elections.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/103 "2005-07-17T16:39:31Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> What diocese in the U.S has the most priest abuse lawsuits? The liberalism hotbed of [Covington, KY](http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2002/06/09/loc_1ky_dioceses_lead_u_s.html), which [supported George W Bush](http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/politicalInfo.php?locIndex=3880) in the last two elections.

Your cite is from June, 2002. I’m pretty sure Boston has overtaken those numbers by now, with totals over 200, from what I recall.

Actually, perhaps even dumber than Santorum’s original comments was a quote I read from some far-right Republican organization that blamed Kennedy and Kerry’s comments on them being “Bob Casey’s surrogate attack dogs.” As if some sort of ulterior motive is necessary for prominent Boston-area liberals being offended when you say that Boston-area liberalism has led to child sexual abuse.

Sorry, I don’t have a cite. I think it was in the Boston Globe this past week, though.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/104 "2005-07-17T17:04:27Z")

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Bob Casey doesn’t NEED attack dogs. If Santorum is trying to win back support locally, this is gonna backfire.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/105 "2005-07-17T17:47:01Z")

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Yeah. Still, I wish I could get the “make Santorum look bad” job for the Casey campaign. Just give the guy as many opportunities to look bad as possible, then relax and let him take care of the rest.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/106 "2005-07-17T18:55:36Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> Your cite is from June, 2002. I’m pretty sure Boston has overtaken those numbers by now, with totals over 200, from what I recall.

I heard a radio interview this week with Peter Isely, director for the Survivors Network for those Abused by Priests, which is where I learned that Covington was the worst. Likely the Covington numbers rose just like the Boston numbers, and is still the worst. I’d hope this guy would have current info, but I suppose it’s possible he was using out-of-date data, though.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/107 "2005-07-18T00:04:13Z")

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[http://www.ncrnews.org/abuse/](http://www.ncrnews.org/abuse/)  
Last article on the page, “Beating up on Santorum”, Matt C. Abbott, July 15, 2005

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> In defense of Santorum, his commentary was written and posted when the scandal first exploded, which just happened to be in Boston. Most people, including perhaps the senator, did not yet realize the scope of the scandal. Of course, we now know that several other U.S. dioceses have had problems very similar to that of the Archdiocese of Boston. In fact, at least in terms of settlement money for abuse victims, there are two dioceses — Covington, Ky. and Orange County, Calif. — that have surpassed Boston. And we’re still waiting to hear about the Archdiocese of Los Angeles.

It’s possible (if not likely) the interview I heard was speaking in terms of settlement money.

In any case, I suppose the point that priests molests kids in non-liberal areas too still pretty much stands.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/108 "2005-07-18T00:22:01Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> Actually, perhaps even dumber than Santorum’s original comments was a quote I read from some far-right Republican organization that blamed Kennedy and Kerry’s comments on them being “Bob Casey’s surrogate attack dogs.” As if some sort of ulterior motive is necessary for prominent Boston-area liberals being offended when you say that Boston-area liberalism has led to child sexual abuse.
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> Sorry, I don’t have a cite. I think it was in the Boston Globe this past week, though.

Yes, it was, and yes, that’s what was said.

I’m getting damned tired of unrolling my eyes, I tell ya.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/109 "2005-07-18T01:07:08Z")

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Bernard Law, the disgraced former cardinal of Boston, is about as conservative as you can get.

Wonder how Santorum would explain **his** behavior during the scandal?

**tomndebb** is right…it’s highly nauseating for anyone, right or left, to be making hay over this.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-boston-liberalism-cause-of-priest-scandal/312333/110 "2005-07-18T21:35:24Z")

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[QUOTEMatt C. Abbott, July 15, 2005]

In defense of Santorum, his commentary was written and posted when the scandal first exploded, which just happened to be in Boston.

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Oh, puh-leeze. The fact that someone leaps to an idiotic and illogical conclusion before the evidence proving that the conclusion is, in fact, incorrect is no defense.

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