# Santorum: not enough people to support Social Security, due to (drum roll) abortions! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 29, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402 "2011-03-29T17:31:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/21 "2011-03-30T04:30:54Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You know, I hate the guy with a passion, but attacking him and his family for how they grieved for their lost child is just low. Yes, they brought the body home for a night, held him, and grieved together as a family. I don’t think there’s anything wrong or “mad” about it. Well said. A lot of people who experience a stillbirth want a chance to hold the child and say goodbye. Many people even take pictures, because they know that those are the only baby pictures they will ever have of that child. I feel confident saying that anyone who would look down on someone for doing such things for a stillborn child has never lost a child and really, truly doesn’t have a clue. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/22 "2011-03-30T04:47:38Z")
Yeah, what **Guin** and **lavenderviolet** said. My sister did the same thing, and while it’s not my glass of tea, I find that bagging on somebody about it is kind of low. You might be able to get a few “amens” with it on 4chan, or one of those types of sites, if you want to try. ---
**Author:** ![GilaB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@GilaB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GilaB)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/23 "2011-03-30T04:52:49Z")
> [@Karweenie](#): > > By this logic all contraception should be illegal. I’d better get ahead of the curve and rent out my womb now, before I’m forced to do it later to fund Boomer retirement. He’s on the record as criticizing _Griswold vs. Connecticut_, the Supreme Court decision legalizing contraceptives, and has said that he thinks artificial birth control harms women and society because it encourages people to have sex outside of marriage. He’s also a very devout Catholic. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/24 "2011-03-30T04:58:06Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You know, I hate the guy with a passion, but attacking him and his family for how they grieved for their lost child is just low. Yes, they brought the body home for a night, held him, and grieved together as a family. I don’t think there’s anything wrong or “mad” about it. I do. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/25 "2011-03-30T10:44:42Z")
> [@GilaB](#): > > He’s on the record as criticizing _Griswold vs. Connecticut_, the Supreme Court decision legalizing contraceptives, and has said that he thinks artificial birth control harms women and society because it encourages people to have sex outside of marriage. He’s also a very devout Catholic. Oh yes, I often see him on EWTN the very conservative Catholic cable channel. Make no mistake the “pro-life” people would ban contraception in a heart beat if they could and are trying every thing they can think of to make it harder and harder to obtain. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/26 "2011-03-30T14:30:06Z")
But Social Security is a communist plot to weaken America, so doesn’t that mean he should be advocating for\* more \*abortions? It’s all so confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Karweenie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e79b87/32.png) [@Karweenie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karweenie)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/27 "2011-03-30T14:59:01Z")
> [@GilaB](#): > > He’s on the record as criticizing _Griswold vs. Connecticut_, the Supreme Court decision legalizing contraceptives, and has said that he thinks artificial birth control harms women and society because it encourages people to have sex outside of marriage. He’s also a very devout Catholic. I knew about the devout Catholicism, but the Griswold hate is new to me. Hijack: If Mr. Frothy-Butt actually read anything about those [Founding Fathers he reveres](http://foolocracy.com/2011/03/santorum-fool-of-the-week/) so much, he would have noticed that their religious ideas were _different_ at best, and antiPapist at worst. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/28 "2011-03-31T23:02:51Z")
Jon Stewart mentioned him the other night, pointing out that we’ve only got all these retirees in need is because they weren’t aborted themselves. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/29 "2011-03-31T23:12:19Z")
> [@GilaB](#): > > He’s on the record as criticizing _Griswold vs. Connecticut_, the Supreme Court decision legalizing contraceptives, . I thought that was the case where Chevy Chase tried to get out of a speeding ticket by claiming it was the dog that was actually driving the family stationwagon… ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/30 "2011-03-31T23:13:54Z")
The gays are even worse than the abortionistas - how is butt-plowing some dude supposed pay grandpa off? ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/31 "2011-03-31T23:17:38Z")
“Mr. Frothy-Butt!” That’s great! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/32 "2011-03-31T23:26:13Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > The gays are even worse than the abortionistas - how is butt-plowing some dude supposed pay grandpa off? Where did you think little baby lawyers came from? ---
**Author:** ![Oregon\_sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/50afbb/32.png) [@Oregon\_sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oregon_sunshine)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/33 "2011-04-02T23:41:29Z")
Santorum’s a person, too?? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/34 "2011-04-03T04:40:33Z")
Wasn’t the argument that Social Security was failing because there were too MANY people to sustain it? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/35 "2011-04-03T04:51:35Z")
Crazy conservatives need to make up their Borg-like mind. A couple of generations ago, they were beating the drum about eugenics and forced sterilizations. Now we have to constantly hear about how abortions are the downfall of society. Why are they focused so much on babies, either potential or incubating ones? It’s a strange fixation. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/36 "2011-04-03T21:24:38Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I think the best way for a Doper to understand the comments by the former senator is with a simple SAT-like analogy: > > Rick Santorum : abortion :: **Le Jacquelope** : outsourcing Please start a new thread of SAT-like analogies, and make this Exhibit A. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/37 "2011-04-04T14:23:54Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I thought that was the case where Chevy Chase tried to get out of a speeding ticket by claiming it was the dog that was actually driving the family stationwagon… NO, NO, he claimed the dog was using it’s leash to push the station wagon. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/38 "2011-04-06T18:21:09Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Not allowed. PBS must be destroyed. > I thought Welk was enough to destroy it, but I was wrong., You sure were wrong! When I answered phones for PBS pledge drives we always had a Lawrence Welk show. Got some our best, most lucrative pledges from Mr. Welk!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402/39 "2011-04-06T23:56:42Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Wasn’t the argument that Social Security was failing because there were too MANY people to sustain it? Because they weren’t aborted. You can’t bring logic to a knife fight. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/santorum-not-enough-people-to-support-social-security-due-to-drum-roll-abortions/576402.md?page=1)