# Sarah blames Track's PTSD on Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737 "2016-01-21T01:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/21 "2016-01-21T05:55:41Z")
More proof that the GOP is the party of personal responsibility: Obama is assigned responsibity for any person’s problem. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/22 "2016-01-21T05:59:22Z")
I think we need to remember that it’s the Republicans who keep voting down Veterans’ benefit increases. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/23 "2016-01-21T06:03:09Z")
That kind of power over a hostile and antagonistic mass just isn’t _natural_. Its not _normal_ to have that sort of compelling power. Not implying anything about the _source_ of Obama’s effect, here, just sayin’, is all. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/24 "2016-01-21T11:50:22Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I’m from a generation in which people who served in Vietnam spent the entire time in the bars of Saigon. > > I think it’s a fair question. My father did not, and exhibited symptoms of from some level of PTSD for several years. He managed to not beat me or my mom, and didn’t point his guns at anything except when hunting. Track comes from a line of people who blame others for their problems, and I fail to see how a different CIC would make a difference in his reaction to his combat. Would he suddenly not have PTSD if Bush or Trump or Cruz were in office? I suppose Bristol would suddenly stop getting knocked up out of wedlock if a Republican were in office, too. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/25 "2016-01-21T12:40:00Z")
How do these recent comments jive with her comments a couple weeks ago that veterans shouldn’t ask for child support? In reality it has nothing to do with veterans issues and everything to do with a trashy family that is now a wealthy trashy family that thinks the rules don’t apply to them. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/26 "2016-01-21T12:49:59Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > As someone who works on veterans issues, Palin can go pound sand. You get a pass on the dangling participle this time, but only because it ends with Palin pounding sand. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/27 "2016-01-21T13:07:56Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > You get a pass on the dangling participle this time, but only because it ends with Palin pounding sand. Thanks for the lesson. I would strike as for coming from but it won’t let me. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/28 "2016-01-21T13:24:41Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Prison is a great cure for spousal (SO) abusers who wave AK-47s around, PTSD or not. Hi, I’m Sally Struthers. Have you got a violent and emotionally out of control person in your home? Punching you, choking your dog, aiming rifles at the neighbors’ children? Send him to prison and _get back your loved one_! ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/29 "2016-01-21T14:10:13Z")
My grandpapa served in the U.S. Infantry in the First World War, and got shell shock. Thanks, FDR! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/30 "2016-01-21T14:15:10Z")
So an attention whore and quitter who preaches ‘personal responsibility’ in the name of making money and gaining attention has once again been shown to be part of a family which takes no damned responsibility for it’s own actions? Shocked! Shocked I say! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/31 "2016-01-21T14:15:26Z")
In all fairness, I don’t really get where Palin blamed Obama. Her entire speech was incomprehensible. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/32 "2016-01-21T14:15:53Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Children out of wedlock. > No. Of course it’s not their fault. Not to hijack, but what does this have to do with the OP? Why is having a child while not being married to the mother/father inherently a bad thing? My girlfriend and I have both decided not to get married and have a wonderful 4 year old daughter together. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/33 "2016-01-21T14:16:44Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > My grandpapa served in the U.S. Infantry in the First World War, and got shell shock. Thanks, FDR! Wilson. FDR was WWII. I’m not going to quote it again here, but I did in the elections thread about this. The actual words she uttered to describe this whole situation could be used, unaltered, in a skit on SNL with Tina Fey. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/34 "2016-01-21T14:18:04Z")
> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#): > > Not to hijack, but what does this have to do with the OP? Why is having a child while not being married to the mother/father inherently a bad thing? It’s not. Bristol Palin has had two children out of wedlock while being a paid spokeswoman for abstinence-only birth control. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/35 "2016-01-21T14:19:15Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > It’s not. Bristol Palin has had two children out of wedlock while being a paid spokeswoman for abstinence-only birth control. [http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160121/910f0b2dabff2a693a96a623e930b6bd.jpg](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160121/910f0b2dabff2a693a96a623e930b6bd.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/36 "2016-01-21T14:22:39Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > It’s not. Bristol Palin has had two children out of wedlock while being a paid spokeswoman for abstinence-only birth control. That’s pretty much what I figured. Sorry about that. Hijack over. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/37 "2016-01-21T14:32:08Z")
She pretty smoothly makes the implication that her son has a diagnosis of PTSD but she never said he did have it. She said (paraphrased for clarity): “My son came back different, hardened, and wondering if people have respect for service members and the sacrifices they have made. Military members wonder if the President knows what it is that they do and if he respects their hard work. I can relate to families who have ex service members who have suffered damage, including PTSD, from their war experience. We need a President who respects the military.” The message she was trying to convey was political; that Obama doesn’t respect the military he commands. The one she sent is “My son’s behavior is related to post-military PTSD and that’s Obama’s fault.” The confusion is caused by her poor speaking ability. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/38 "2016-01-21T14:33:08Z")
There were rumors at the time he went into the military that it was to avoid jail/prison. If he has PTSD, I hope he gets treatment. If he has PS (Palin Syndrome), I, well, I hope he gets treatment. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/39 "2016-01-21T14:36:26Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Wilson. FDR was WWII. (Charlie McCarthy voice). The JOKE is… Roosevelt wasn’t responsible for my dear ancestor’s service in the Great War. His presidency came afterward. Like Obama’s presidency came after Trap, or Trash, or whatever, went to the Middle East in September, 2008. Special Auxiliary Subtext Joke: Republicans loved to blame FDR for all kinds of phony shit, like sending a battleship to pick up his dog, and being a traitor to his class, and being a Socialist Jewish Russian. Like blaming Obama for someone’s PTSD from Iraq or Afghanistan. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/40 "2016-01-21T14:36:38Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > She pretty smoothly makes the implication that her son has a diagnosis of PTSD but she never said he did have it. She said (paraphrased for clarity): > > “My son came back different, hardened, and wondering if people have respect for service members and the sacrifices they have made. Military members wonder if the President knows what it is that they do and if he respects their hard work. I can relate to families who have ex service members who have suffered damage, including PTSD, from their war experience. We need a President who respects the military.” > > The message she was trying to convey was political; that Obama doesn’t respect the military he commands. > > The one she sent is “My son’s behavior is related to post-military PTSD and that’s Obama’s fault.” > > The confusion is caused by her poor speaking ability. So the Trump solution is…send thousands of soldiers back to the Middle East. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737.md?page=3)