# Sarah blames Track's PTSD on Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737 "2016-01-21T01:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/61 "2016-01-21T16:28:03Z")
Yeah, that’s clearly what she intended. I don’t know what her strong point is, but it’s not subtlety. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/62 "2016-01-21T16:29:13Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The full text link is to the one that _doesn’t_ mention Trap or Trunk or whatever the fuck the idiot son is called. Yeah, I _know_, that’s the point I was… eh, fuck it. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/63 "2016-01-21T16:30:10Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No. She simply mentioned both those things. You cannot blame her for what she did not say. You created that link, not her. “When my own son is going through what he goes through coming back, I can certainly relate to the families who…feel these ramifications of PTSD,” she told the rowdy crowd of around 8,000 people. “And it makes me realize more than ever it is now or never for the sake of America’s finest that we have a commander-in-chief who will respect them.” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/64 "2016-01-21T16:42:27Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > “When my own son is going through what he goes through coming back, I can certainly relate to the families who…feel these ramifications of PTSD,” she told the rowdy crowd of around 8,000 people. “And it makes me realize more than ever it is now or never for the sake of America’s finest that we have a commander-in-chief who will respect them.” Sure. A more defensible position is that she was claiming that Obama’s lack of respect for veterans made her realize anew how awful a president he is, because anyone suffering from PTSD after serving deserves respect, which Obama isn’t manifesting. Why isn’t that “what she meant?” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/65 "2016-01-21T16:44:04Z")
And once again, I am defending a brain addled idiot from the accusations of a brain addled idiot. Screw it. You can’t make me waste time typing in defense of Palin. I quit. Say any damn thing you please, fiction or not. It’s not like anything stops you anyway. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/66 "2016-01-21T16:48:12Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And once again, I am defending a brain addled idiot from the accusations of a brain addled idiot. > > Screw it. You can’t make me waste time typing in defense of Palin. I quit. Say any damn thing you please, fiction or not. It’s not like anything stops you anyway. I think you’re wrong on this – it seems rather clear to me that Palin was _partially_ blaming the suffering of her son on the President. No big deal, though. Reasonable people really can see things differently some times. It’s possible that I’m biased by my dislike of Sarah Palin, and it’s also possible that you’re biased by your assumption that liberal Dopers are usually wrong about politics. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/67 "2016-01-21T16:56:09Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/68 "2016-01-21T17:07:10Z")
Palin isn’t just stupid. She is far more dangerous. She is every much a terrorist as someone in ISIS or Taliban, as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/69 "2016-01-21T17:08:56Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > You don’t need to have been in combat to experience PTSD. You just need to have experienced a traumatic event. That can include, for example, having the guy who sleeps in the bunk across from you getting his legs blown off by an IED. Or driving by the remains of children killed in a drone strike. Or a million other things one potentially encounters in a war zone. > > So the real question would be whether he experienced significant trauma. Not sure how you’d know that other than to ask him. To expand on that a little, it’s not necessary to be in combat to have PTSD. Both my grandfathers had what would probably be considered PTSD and both had non-combat roles on a hospital ship. ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/70 "2016-01-21T17:25:19Z")
> [@cutman74](#): > > Maybe the way to treat PTSD is to stop starting pointless misdirected wars. I’m pretty sure Track?sp probably served in Afghanistan or Iraq or both. So you’re saying that justified wars never cause PTSD? Could you explain the mechanism for how that works? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I think we need to remember that it’s the Republicans who keep voting down Veterans’ benefit increases. That’s nonsense. The VA has **never** been adequately funded. Putting off paying the piper is not a partisan issue. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/71 "2016-01-21T17:28:59Z")
Of _course_ Track Palin has PTSD. His mom is Sarah Palin. Isn’t that enough evidence right there? I have PTSD just from watching her on TV. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/72 "2016-01-21T17:30:39Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > That’s nonsense. The VA has **never** been adequately funded. Putting off paying the piper is not a partisan issue. That would be a fair rebuttal if the two possible levels of funding were “adequate” and “not enough.” But funding is a continuum. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/73 "2016-01-21T17:37:05Z")
Even if she is not blaming Obama for Track’s PTSD (and she clearly is), this line is probably the most offensive thing she has ever said, and that’s a huge list. > [@](#): > > “Military members wonder if the President knows what it is that they do and if he respects their hard work.”- ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/74 "2016-01-21T17:46:24Z")
Her son is arrested and reportedly held a rifle while threatening suicide. As a mother, her reaction is to try and deflect blame from herself and score cheap political points. All she had to say was, “please give us privacy during this difficult time.” The woman is a monster. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/75 "2016-01-21T17:48:09Z")
Liberal hypocrisy. No question about it. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/76 "2016-01-21T18:07:39Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Her son is arrested and reportedly held a rifle while threatening suicide. As a mother, her reaction is to try and deflect blame from herself and score cheap political points. All she had to say was, “please give us privacy during this difficult time.” > > The woman is a monster. Agreed. The man was a thug before he went into the service, and remains a thug upon his return, enhanced by his alcohol abuse. Pretty much every person who joins the military comes back changed, hopefully for the better. I can give the guy props for joining in a time of war; that said, he spent one tour in Iraq, this after basic training, military training, Stryker training, and a ramp-up period of at least two months in Kuwait before ever seeing Iraq. I have no idea how long his tour was, but it couldn’t have been much over eight or nine months before his discharge in 2010, and it was spent mostly on a military compound, with brief forays in an armored vehicle, “providing security for the top brass in the brigade”, as several articles of the time mentioned. He wasn’t a ground-pounder and wasn’t wounded. That doesn’t mean it didn’t affect him, of course. For his mother to use him for political reasons sits poorly with most veteran’s groups and with this veteran, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/77 "2016-01-21T18:21:45Z")
And like the concerned mother she is, when her son is in serious need of psychiatric attention she’s on the very next plane to endorse Trump in Iowa. As one does when a family member is in need. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/78 "2016-01-21T18:34:20Z")
> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#): > > Not to hijack, but what does this have to do with the OP? Why is having a child while not being married to the mother/father inherently a bad thing? My girlfriend and I have both decided not to get married and have a wonderful 4 year old daughter together. Depends - why did you decide not to get married? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/79 "2016-01-21T18:35:47Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > That’s nonsense. The VA has **never** been adequately funded. Putting off paying the piper is not a partisan issue. It is now. Palin made it so. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/80 "2016-01-21T18:37:21Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Sure. > > A more defensible position is that she was claiming that Obama’s lack of respect for veterans made her realize anew how awful a president he is, because anyone suffering from PTSD after serving deserves respect, which Obama isn’t manifesting. > > Why isn’t that “what she meant?” Because that’s not even close to what she said. That’s desperate spin and politicially biased crap. Just like her actual statement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737.md?page=5)