# Sarah blames Track's PTSD on Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737 "2016-01-21T01:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/81 "2016-01-21T18:38:40Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No. She simply mentioned both those things. You cannot blame her for what she did not say. You created that link, not her. Oh, come on. Don’t even try this. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/82 "2016-01-21T18:38:48Z")
I’m going all the way back to the OP for a moment: > [@cutman74](#): > > The VA sucks at mental treatment Sort of. The VA does a lot of work with a lot of vets, and for its size and funding (and varied clientele) it does a surprisingly good job. It sucks at mental health treatment compared to dedicated private treatment. It does an exceptionally good job at mental health treatment compared to “let them rot on the street.” And compared to publicly funded options. > [@](#): > > but for someone who thinks gun violence is a mental health issue to not get mental help for a family when she can obviously afford it makes me sick. Should the VA pay for it? absolutely. The VA should contribute, sure. His benefits, he earned them. But it should not reimburse the entirety of private treatment for those who can afford it IMO. . ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/83 "2016-01-21T18:40:48Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Because that’s not even close to what she said. That’s desperate spin and politicially biased crap. Just like her actual statement. Don’t bother responding. He’s already called us all stupid and stormed off. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/84 "2016-01-21T18:51:40Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Don’t bother responding. He’s already called us all stupid and stormed off. Trying to defend Palin’s statement is almost as dumb as her statement itself. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/85 "2016-01-21T19:05:07Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Trying to defend Palin’s statement is almost as dumb as her statement itself. Well, she is one of the more important thought leaders for the modern Republican Party, they are obligated to defend her every utterance. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/86 "2016-01-21T19:08:01Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And once again, I am defending a brain addled idiot from the accusations of a brain addled idiot. > > Screw it. You can’t make me waste time typing in defense of Palin. I quit. Say any damn thing you please, fiction or not. It’s not like anything stops you anyway. Don’t blame us when, after peeing on our leg and trying to tell us it’s raining, we call you on it. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/87 "2016-01-21T19:13:31Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Well, she is one of the more important thought leaders for the modern Republican Party, they are obligated to defend her every utterance. You just called Sarah Palin a “thought leader.” That’s how bad things are out there. Really, really bad. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/88 "2016-01-21T19:26:09Z")
No, I called Sarah Palin a though leader for the modern Republican Party. This is a party with Donald Trump as the front runner in their primary for their presidential candidate. This is a party that repeatedly has rejected established science; that wants the Latino vote while espousing openly racist views; and this is a party that calls for small government, but wants to tell people who they can marry, what god to pray to, and control women’s sexuality. Among the GOP, Sarah Palin is an intellectual. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/89 "2016-01-21T19:44:12Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > No, I called Sarah Palin a though leader for the modern Republican Party. This is a party with Donald Trump as the front runner in their primary for their presidential candidate. This is a party that repeatedly has rejected established science; that wants the Latino vote while espousing openly racist views; and this is a party that calls for small government, but wants to tell people who they can marry, what god to pray to, and control women’s sexuality. Among the GOP, Sarah Palin is an intellectual. I know, that’s what I meant. I was just making a joke abut the GOP and Palin. Not you. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/90 "2016-01-21T19:52:02Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Don’t blame us when, after peeing on our leg and trying to tell us it’s raining, we call you on it. The whole effort was really beneath him. I’m sure that’s why he tucked tail and ran. ---
**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/91 "2016-01-21T19:59:45Z")
[quote=“Flyer, post:70, topic:743737”] So you’re saying that justified wars never cause PTSD? Could you explain the mechanism for how that works? Nope. That’s why my second post changed “treat” to “combat”. I also should have said “one way to combat PTSD” instead of what I originally posted, but I’m pretty sure you probably could get the gist of what my point was. your welcome for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/92 "2016-01-21T20:00:37Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > The whole effort was really beneath him. I’m sure that’s why he tucked tail and ran. Oh, I dunno. It’s possible Palin just went out there and made a series of individual sounds. If you want to structure them into words and sentences, I can’t stop you. ---
**Author:** ![cutman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@cutman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cutman74)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/93 "2016-01-21T20:01:06Z")
Whoops, spelled you’re wrong and forgot to capitalize. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/94 "2016-01-21T20:08:38Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > In all fairness, I don’t really get where Palin blamed Obama. Her entire speech was incomprehensible. Oh stewardess, I speak [jive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ). ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/95 "2016-01-21T20:16:18Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I think we need to remember that it’s the Republicans who keep voting down Veterans’ benefit increases. Let’s not argue about who killed who’s benefit increases. We are gathered here today to blame Obama and take back the country from the liberal bastions who keep compromising with us and making us look unreasonable. > [@Frank](#): > > It’s not. Bristol Palin has had two children out of wedlock while being a paid spokeswoman for abstinence-only birth control. I’d say this makes her an expert twice over. Only two more punches on the member card and she gets a free sonogram down at the clinic. How is Sarah Palin still even relevant to anything except as the subject of a remarkably accurate comedic impersonation by Tina Fey _using a transcript of Palin’s own interview_? Even Fey has moved on to better things and hasn’t bothered reviving the character in, what, five years? When even a comedian won’t bother making making fun of you for an easy laugh, you’re pretty much a political and cultural zero. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/96 "2016-01-21T20:16:57Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > I know, that’s what I meant. I was just making a joke abut the GOP and Palin. Not you. Yeah, I know. I just wanted to say a bunch of mean things about the GOP. It’s been that kind of day, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/97 "2016-01-21T20:22:46Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > How is Sarah Palin still even relevant to anything except as the subject of a remarkably accurate comedic impersonation by Tina Fey _using a transcript of Palin’s own interview_? Even Fey has moved on to better things and hasn’t bothered reviving the character in, what, five years? When even a comedian won’t bother making making fun of you for an easy laugh, you’re pretty much a political and cultural zero. So was John Travolta, but then he got “Pulp Fiction” was boom, he was back. Palin’s wise to hitch her wagon to Trump; she may be a liar and a dolt, but she has a head for self-promotion and knows a good dirigible fire when she sees one. If she had offered some rambling nonsense in endorsement of Marco Rubio it wouldn’t have been as big a deal. But like it or not, this endorsement EXPLODED all over the news. Palin’s folksy babble is comforting and likable to millions of people. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/98 "2016-01-21T20:25:47Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Don’t blame us when, after peeing on our leg and trying to tell us it’s raining, we call you on it. No, I peed on your leg and then said, entirely factually and unrelatedly, “It’s raining.” At no time did I explicitly deny urinating nor offer the rain as an alternative to your wet pants. The statement stands on its own and the proximity to the alleged urine should not cause you to think that the statement was related to the incident. …how’s my Bricker impression? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/99 "2016-01-21T20:27:18Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > So was John Travolta, but then he got “Pulp Fiction” was boom, he was back. > > Palin’s wise to hitch her wagon to Trump; she may be a liar and a dolt, but she has a head for self-promotion and knows a good dirigible fire when she sees one. If she had offered some rambling nonsense in endorsement of Marco Rubio it wouldn’t have been as big a deal. > > But like it or not, this endorsement EXPLODED all over the news. Palin’s folksy babble is comforting and likable to millions of people. But also, as I said in the Pit thread, my fundie friends on Facebook are all saying she was being a complete idiot. Of course, that’s because they don’t support Trump at all–to the point of unfriending people who do support him. They don’t even do that with Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/100 "2016-01-21T20:29:55Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > No, I peed on your leg and then said, entirely factually and unrelatedly, “It’s raining.” At no time did I explicitly deny urinating nor offer the rain as an alternative to your wet pants. The statement stands on its own and the proximity to the alleged urine should not cause you to think that the statement was related to the incident. > > …how’s my Bricker impression? pretty good impression [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737.md?page=6)