# Sarah blames Track's PTSD on Obama **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737 "2016-01-21T01:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/121 "2016-01-22T13:47:33Z")
Palin has been such a national disgrace that it’s really undermined my opinion of John McCain. Before he ran with her, I saw him as someone who I wouldn’t vote for, but an honorable person. After Palin, he just seems like someone who has no moral,compass and who would sell out his country just for his political gain. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/122 "2016-01-22T18:35:44Z")
> [@booneyvince](#): > > Obama’s abysmal record on veterans aside, it’s always hilarious when Palin shows up again, and the frothing idiots on the left spew their misogyny for all to see, forever putting the lie to the notion that they don’t hate women 🙂 Is this another Palin quote? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/123 "2016-01-22T18:42:55Z")
> [@booneyvince](#): > > Obama’s abysmal record on veterans aside, it’s always hilarious when Palin shows up again, and the frothing idiots on the left spew their misogyny for all to see, forever putting the lie to the notion that they don’t hate women 🙂 Isn’t it about time for you to say that liberals are secretly really afraid of her? That one is my favorite. Boy, did it get trotted out a lot in 2008! It’s ready for a comeback! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/124 "2016-01-22T19:01:35Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#): > > Is this another Palin quote? Nah. It actually parses as a coherent sentence. Not a coherent sentiment, but I at least prefer decent English from my trolls. ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/125 "2016-01-22T19:04:43Z")
Am I wrong in remembering that young Track’s choice to serve was one offered to him by a judge as an alternative to jail? He seems to have come back and resumed his life rather than having been sidetracked from it. Still, the president, having supported every effort to maintain and augment veterans’ mental health, and keep guns out of the hands of people unstable enough to commit domestic violence and/or threaten to turn a firearm on themselves, seems to have done everything that could be expected of him. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/126 "2016-01-22T19:14:39Z")
> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#): > > Am I wrong in remembering that young Track’s choice to serve was one offered to him by a judge as an alternative to jail? [Not according to this page](http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/joinprison.htm) and the quoted military recruiting regs. > [@](#): > > Can a prosecutor mandate that someone join the military as an alternative to criminal prosecution? > > Well, a judge or prosecutor can do whatever they please (within the limits of the law for their jurisdiction), but – that doesn’t mean the military branches are required to accept such people and – they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/127 "2016-01-23T16:42:44Z")
I think that, in this instance, PTSD means “Palin-Type Sanity Disorder” ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/128 "2016-01-23T16:46:17Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Someone should tell Palin that’s what happens when people are sent to war. Also sounds like the condition that led to Bristol Palin’s first pregnancy ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/129 "2016-01-23T17:50:58Z")
> [@booneyvince](#): > > Obama’s abysmal record on veterans aside, it’s always hilarious when Palin shows up again, and the frothing idiots on the left spew their misogyny for all to see, forever putting the lie to the notion that they don’t hate women 🙂 Are you being deliberately stupid or just willfully ignorant? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/130 "2016-01-23T18:19:03Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Are you being deliberately stupid or just willfully ignorant? False dichotomy; why can’t it be both? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/131 "2016-01-23T19:26:22Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > False dichotomy; why can’t it be both? > > Stranger Mind blown. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/132 "2016-01-23T20:09:36Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > False dichotomy; why can’t it be both? > > Stranger Probably one from A, one from B, and an egg-roll. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/133 "2016-01-23T21:28:06Z")
> [@booneyvince](#): > > it’s always hilarious when Palin shows up again, and the frothing idiots on the left spew their misogyny for all to see, forever putting the lie to the notion that they don’t hate women 🙂 It’s always hilarious when people like you show up and use the exact same stupid mindless arguments that some liberals use. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/134 "2016-01-23T21:29:32Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > False dichotomy; why can’t it be both? > > Stranger I would say it MUST be both to think that the proposition that Sarah Palin is a complete fucking idiot is doubtful and somehow indicates hatred of women rather than an ability to observe idiocy in a complete fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/135 "2016-01-23T23:45:26Z")
> [@booneyvince](#): > > Obama’s abysmal record on veterans aside, it’s always hilarious when Palin shows up again, and the frothing idiots on the left spew their misogyny for all to see, forever putting the lie to the notion that they don’t hate women 🙂 For fucks sake, _I_ am a woman and I hate her ignorant ill educated puling lack of wit. [URL=“[http://boards.straightdope.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/](http://boards.straightdope.com//www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/)”] ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/136 "2016-01-24T22:21:39Z")
In the “giving credit where credit is due” department, [Jeb Bush](http://http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/bush-agrees-with-vets-no-palin-cant-blame-obama-for-sons-ptsd/) says that Obama is not to blame for her son’s PTSD. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/137 "2016-01-24T22:48:12Z")
> [@booneyvince](#): > > Obama’s abysmal record on veterans aside, it’s always hilarious when Palin shows up again, and the frothing idiots on the left spew their misogyny for all to see, forever putting the lie to the notion that they don’t hate women 🙂 You mean all those idiots that are likely to vote for Clinton in the real election? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/138 "2016-01-25T01:24:06Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > In the “giving credit where credit is due” department, [Jeb Bush](http://http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/bush-agrees-with-vets-no-palin-cant-blame-obama-for-sons-ptsd/) says that Obama is not to blame for her son’s PTSD. I can almost hear Sarah already, “Hey Jeb!, how’s that sane-y rational-y thing workin’ out for you?” ---
**Author:** ![Whatever4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@Whatever4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whatever4)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/139 "2016-01-26T06:02:40Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Was Track Palin actually in combat? His discharge papers do not indicate that he received the combat infantryman award, which is generally automatic for anyone who has served in a combat zone. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737/140 "2016-01-26T15:45:01Z")
> [@Whatever4](#): > > His discharge papers do not indicate that he received the combat infantryman award, which is generally automatic for anyone who has served in a combat zone. Can’t find the article off-hand, but a combat vet who shared a barracks with him stated that Track had never seen a single day of combat on his tour. Serving in a combat zone doesn’t mean you saw combat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-blames-tracks-ptsd-on-obama/743737.md?page=8)