# Sarah Huckabee Sanders deserves her own Pitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 24, 2018, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659 "2018-06-24T11:21:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/141 "2018-07-03T09:33:58Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It wouldn’t matter. If Hannity suddenly disappeared, Fox would easily find someone else to do his (highly profitable) schtick. They probably have a stack of audition videos on file. Hannity really isn’t the problem; his management and his fans are. Yep. They already have Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham or Jeanine Pirro to take his slot, and then someone from fox and friends can move up a tier. And his replacement might likely be “better” than hannity at shoveling shit down rubes’ mouths. Hannity too easily gets flustered and is too often blatantly self-contradictory. There’s a reason he doesn’t have hostile guests on. (And of course I put “better” in scare quotes for a reason. No way what Tucker does could be called “good”.) ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/142 "2018-07-03T11:19:04Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Yes, it’s wholly hypocritical, given the performances of their own Dear Leader among others. But they are never, ever held to account for hypocrisy, so: why not? > > This is one reason that I don’t support the Maxine Waters idea of following Trump Admin people around and heckling them. I understand the frustration that inspired the idea—heck, I was pleased when that first incident surfaced (when the Homeland Security Secretary deliberately went to a Mexican restaurant, surely a troll move). We’ve been watching all this unfold for a year and a half and these people _never_ seem to face any consequences for the harm they’re doing to the nation…so…a bit of heckling seemed like a welcome dose of justice. > > But that was the momentary reaction of a fed-up nation. And that was enough. We got it out of our systems. That really needs to be the end of the organized following-people-to-restaurants. > > It really does. Because it just provides SUCH made-for-FoxNews footage. > > Much better: that business owners of conscience ask the Trumpites to leave. Restaurants, shops, whatever. This is legal–public accommodation businesses DO have the right to refuse service so long as the refusal is based on something other than the protected categories (race, religion, national origin). Refuse them service quietly and politely–creating no footage for FoxNews. > > And these refusals of service will be based not on the colors of their skin, but on the content of their characters. > > Perfectly legitimate. How long before a bunch of white people in MAGA hats make the rounds in minority-majority areas looking for a business to refuse them service then sue for racial discrimination? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/143 "2018-07-03T11:35:00Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > How long before a bunch of white people in MAGA hats make the rounds in minority-majority areas looking for a business to refuse them service then sue for racial discrimination? How would that work? Businesses can just blandly note that they’d refuse service to anyone — black, white, full-blooded Apache, you name it — who comes in wearing a MAGA hat, just like how they’d refuse service to anyone of any hue who apparently missed the message about how No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service. May as well sue for _sexual_ discrimination, as there’s no evidence of that either. ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/144 "2018-07-03T12:02:24Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > How would that work? Businesses can just blandly note that they’d refuse service to anyone — black, white, full-blooded Apache, you name it — who comes in wearing a MAGA hat, just like how they’d refuse service to anyone of any hue who apparently missed the message about how No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service. > > May as well sue for _sexual_ discrimination, as there’s no evidence of that either. MAGA folks would film it & put it on youtube with selective editing…Fox news grabs it and runs wild with ‘liberal racism’. The lawsuit could claim it was racist discrimination by showing photos of lots of non-white people being served. Yeah, the owner might say it was down to the hats but would he serve them after they take off the hats and put them in a bag? If so, they look for someone who wont. Get some rich conservative to bankroll the lawsuits, screw the business owner with legal fees and then fail to report on the result. You don’t have to actually win the lawsuit to win politically. And if you can win the lawsuit by just blandly say you don’t serve people wearing certain clothing, you’ve set a precedent that racists can use that to cut down on serving minorities. Do they have to have a specific set of rules forever or can it be on a whim that they decide they don’t serve people wearing jeans today but they do tomorrow? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/145 "2018-07-03T12:41:44Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > **Press question for the day to Sarah.** > > We can make this a daily event. > > 2 July - Sarah, when the family first discovered your dad’s attraction to neo-nazi websites; what was your reaction? > > Followup - Have you had or are planning an intervention? She is Baptist, isn’t she? Every day the first question she should be asked is “what is the eighth commandment”? And then start asking questions. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/146 "2018-07-03T12:45:45Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > She is Baptist, isn’t she? Every day the first question she should be asked is “what is the eighth commandment”? And then start asking questions. Minor point, [some list it](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments#Different_numbering)as the Ninth. Maybe she’s trying to honor the Fifth Commandment. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/147 "2018-07-04T01:04:10Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > … And if you can win the lawsuit by just blandly say you don’t serve people wearing certain clothing, you’ve set a precedent that racists can use that to cut down on serving minorities. Not really. It’s already common for restaurants to post signs saying they refuse to serve people based on clothing choices–ever hear of “No shirt, no shoes, no service”? If the actual refusal happens only to people of certain racial appearance and not to others, then a discrimination case may exist. In your scenario, if all white people are refused service, then a case may exist. But if not: not. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/148 "2018-07-04T06:31:47Z")
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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/149 "2018-07-04T06:58:44Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > There is an excellent chance that Donald Trump’s policies are being - somewhat - controlled by Putin. The is excellent evidence Donald Trump is weakening our alliances with the major democracies in the world. There is strong evidence that Donald Trump will not condemn neo-nazis. > > To me, normalizing these things is repulsive. This is the path to serfdom, fascism, slavery, and totalitarianism. And if Ms. Sanders is refused a table at a restaurant, it bothers me not one bit. > > I support protected classes based on race, sexual orientation… maybe a few other things. These laws protect people who have been subjected to murderous discrimination for thousands of years. Otherwise a restaurant owner can say, No Shoes, No Shirt, No Condemnation of Nazis - No Service. You have a clear and succinct way of putting things. I see your point. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/150 "2018-07-04T14:18:51Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Not really. It’s already common for restaurants to post signs saying they refuse to serve people based on clothing choices–ever hear of “No shirt, no shoes, no service”? > > If the actual refusal happens only to people of certain racial appearance and not to others, then a discrimination case may exist. In your scenario, if all white people are refused service, then a case may exist. But if not: not. Trumpies aren’t a “protected class” or whatever they call it. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659/151 "2018-07-04T23:04:26Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Trumpies aren’t a “protected class” or whatever they call it. I agree. (I was responding to the Trumpite suggestion that white MAGA-hatted people might get turned away from restaurants run by non-white people, and wouldn’t that Just Prove Something, etc etc etc.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders-deserves-her-own-pitting/816659.md?page=7)