# Sarah Huckabee Sanders **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 26, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596 "2018-07-26T03:20:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/41 "2018-07-26T23:49:34Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > I can see Fox wanting to put her up on the screen because of the position she held, but I don’t think she’s smart enough to provide any meaningful commentary. She is very good at sticking to talking points and toeing the party line, but otherwise isn’t impressive. Look at the women on Fox. I don’t think she is blonde or leggy enough. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/42 "2018-07-27T00:25:58Z")
A good conservative Christian woman should not be involved in politics in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/43 "2018-07-27T00:31:41Z")
Or lying, either. But that just boils down to how seriously any particular alleged Christian values the 10 commandments. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/44 "2018-07-27T00:47:05Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > When you have 62,984,828 people in a category (in this case, Trump voters,) it’s all but math/probability guaranteed that some of them are intelligent. > > Add to that about 10-20 million people who like Trump but didn’t show up to vote at the polls. I don’t see it. If you want to throw large numbers around, there are 326,000,000 Americans. That means 163,000,000 Americans are below average intelligence. And there’s no reason to assume everyone who voted for Trump or supported him becoming President did so because they admire him. Some of them were probably figuring that Trump would be easy to manipulate and they could advance their own agendas better if he was President. Some people probably saw ways that they would benefit from America having an incompetent President. Some people probably thought it was worth it to have Trump become President because of the damage he would do to the reputation of the Republican Party. Some people probably thought that an incompetent conservative like Trump was better than a competent conservative like Cruz. But the people who actually admire Trump and think he’s a good President? No, I do not see those people as intelligent. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/45 "2018-07-27T01:25:48Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t see it. If you want to throw large numbers around, there are 326,000,000 Americans. That means 163,000,000 Americans are below average intelligence. > > And there’s no reason to assume everyone who voted for Trump or supported him becoming President did so because they admire him. Some of them were probably figuring that Trump would be easy to manipulate and they could advance their own agendas better if he was President. Some people probably saw ways that they would benefit from America having an incompetent President. Some people probably thought it was worth it to have Trump become President because of the damage he would do to the reputation of the Republican Party. Some people probably thought that an incompetent conservative like Trump was better than a competent conservative like Cruz. > > But the people who actually admire Trump and think he’s a good President? No, I do not see those people as intelligent. And some people never thought he had a chance of winning and perhaps just wanted to voice some dissent. (Oops.) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/46 "2018-07-27T01:27:35Z")
You’re seeing the situation one way OP, but if you look at conservatives and Trump supporters, they see the situation quite differently. She is wildly popular among Trump supporters. I would go as far as to say that there is a high probability that she will be the first female president of the United States. If not President, I think it is highly likely she will be the first female to win the Republican primary for President. I’ve said it in another, thread; I’m saying it here, maybe I’ll say it again somewhere else so when it happens I can say “look I said this would happen” and then I can feel all smug and superior. ’ ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/47 "2018-07-27T01:37:32Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > You’re seeing the situation one way OP, but if you look at conservatives and Trump supporters, they see the situation quite differently. She is wildly popular among Trump supporters. I would go as far as to say that there is a high probability that she will be the first female president of the United States. If not President, I think it is highly likely she will be the first female to win the Republican primary for President. I’ve said it in another, thread; I’m saying it here, maybe I’ll say it again somewhere else so when it happens I can say “look I said this would happen” and then I can feel all smug and superior. > ’ Widely popular? That surprises me. But I’m clearly in a bubble. I would have guessed she has more of a chance of being put against a wall and shot then elected President. I need to get out more ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/48 "2018-07-27T01:41:44Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t see it. If you want to throw large numbers around, there are 326,000,000 Americans. That means 163,000,000 Americans are below average intelligence. > > And there’s no reason to assume everyone who voted for Trump or supported him becoming President did so because they admire him. Some of them were probably figuring that Trump would be easy to manipulate and they could advance their own agendas better if he was President. Some people probably saw ways that they would benefit from America having an incompetent President. Some people probably thought it was worth it to have Trump become President because of the damage he would do to the reputation of the Republican Party. Some people probably thought that an incompetent conservative like Trump was better than a competent conservative like Cruz. > > But the people who actually admire Trump and think he’s a good President? No, I do not see those people as intelligent. A substantial number of people in Mensa are vocal supporters of Trump. Within any category of 62 million Americans, there will be lawyers, doctors, PhDs, engineers, mathematicians, Ivy-Leaguers and the like. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/49 "2018-07-27T01:47:04Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > A substantial number of people in Mensa are vocal supporters of Trump. Cool! Like who? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/50 "2018-07-27T01:50:08Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > A substantial number of people in Mensa are vocal supporters of Trump. > … That’s nice. I would ask for a cite, but I don’t really give a shit if it’s true or not. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/51 "2018-07-27T01:55:36Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > And some people never thought he had a chance of winning and perhaps just wanted to voice some dissent. (Oops.) No, I included them in the not-intelligent group. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/52 "2018-07-27T01:56:37Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Dear lord, are you people so stuck in your echo chamber that you can’t even \*conceive \*of someone actually liking and believing in President Trump and his pro-America agenda? SHS is most likely one of his true believers. No. Not really. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/53 "2018-07-27T01:59:59Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > Cool! Like who? Plenty of correlational evidence exists. Trump won the income brackets of 50k to 200k by a decent margin. He won with college educated white males. He lost among those with graduate degrees, but still got 37% of that vote - which is a sizable minority. He actually did better with college educated black male voters than those without a college degree. This is all from Pew. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/54 "2018-07-27T02:06:49Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > A substantial number of people in Mensa are vocal supporters of Trump… I will ask for a damn cite. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/55 "2018-07-27T02:16:03Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > A substantial number of people in Mensa are vocal supporters of Trump. Sure, why not? Anyone can get in Mensa. You just need to take a test that was written by Mensa. They charge people forty dollars to take the test. If you pass the test, you’re offered an opportunity to become a member and pay Mensa seventy-nine dollars a year. How rigorous do you think that test is? Mensa is an organization for people who want to brag about how smart they are. That doesn’t mean it’s an organization for people who are actually any smarter than average. > [@Velocity](#): > > Within any category of 62 million Americans, there will be lawyers, doctors, PhDs, engineers, mathematicians, Ivy-Leaguers and the like. Really? Any category? Sixty-seven percent of adult Americans don’t have a college degree. That’s 174,000,000 Americans - more than twice the size category you asked for. How many of these people - who I will remind you don’t have a college degree - do you estimate are lawyers, doctors, PhDs, engineers, mathematicians, or Ivy-Leaguers? How about the 74,000,000 Americans who are under 18? How many of them do you think are lawyers, doctors, PhDs, engineers, mathematicians, or Ivy-Leaguers? ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/56 "2018-07-27T03:09:27Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > Plenty of correlational evidence exists. Trump won the income brackets of 50k to 200k by a decent margin. He won with college educated white males. He lost among those with graduate degrees, but still got 37% of that vote - which is a sizable minority. He actually did better with college educated black male voters than those without a college degree. This is all from Pew. Wunderbar! But who from Mensa does \*\*Velocity \*\*know voted for Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/57 "2018-07-27T03:34:48Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > Plenty of correlational evidence exists. Trump won the income brackets of 50k to 200k by a decent margin. He won with college educated white males. He lost among those with graduate degrees, but still got 37% of that vote - which is a sizable minority. He actually did better with college educated black male voters than those without a college degree. This is all from Pew. Or maybe it’s fake news. [Trump Losing College-Educated Whites? He Never Won Them in the First Place](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/upshot/trump-losing-college-educated-whites-he-never-won-them-in-the-first-place.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/58 "2018-07-27T03:58:17Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > Wunderbar! > But who from Mensa does \*\*Velocity \*\*know voted for Trump? Ok, what evidence do you have regarding the voting habits of those in Mensa? Or, more to the point, what evidence do you have regarding IQ and voting? if you have no specific evidence regarding IQ and voting why would you have such certainty about how high IQ people voted in light of the circumstantial evidence presented? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/59 "2018-07-27T04:04:37Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I will ask for a damn cite. I have been in Mensa long enough to see the never-ending political arguments and there is considerable support for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596/60 "2018-07-27T04:08:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Sure, why not? Anyone can get in Mensa. You just need to take a test that was written by Mensa. > > They charge people forty dollars to take the test. If you pass the test, you’re offered an opportunity to become a member and pay Mensa seventy-nine dollars a year. How rigorous do you think that test is? > > Mensa is an organization for people who want to brag about how smart they are. That doesn’t mean it’s an organization for people who are actually any smarter than average. $38 last time I checked, but no, not anyone can get in. The process involves two tests and they are both quite tough in their own way. At any rate, we are leaving the topic of this thread. But there is a considerable difference between right and wrong and smart and dumb. I think you and others hold the view that because you consider Trump to be wrong, that Trump supporters must be dumb. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-huckabee-sanders/818596.md?page=4)