# Sarah Palin attacks the President on foreign soil

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 23, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253 "2009-09-23T16:26:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/41 "2009-09-23T18:06:16Z")

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I think you forgot to mention the part about it being a private party, closed to the media.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/42 "2009-09-23T18:07:01Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Because she is doing it to build up foreign policy credentials in her next run at the top of the repub ticket, it matters. She is all they have.

Harrumph!  
Huckabee won the Value Voters poll, not Palin.  
Palin came in dead _last_.  
Forget Huckabee at your own peril!!!

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/43 "2009-09-23T18:09:00Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> I merged two identically titled threads. I hope this doesn’t cause too much mayhem with interpolating posts.  
> \*\*  
> Gfactor\*\*  
> Pit Moderator

They were identically titled, yes, but one was attempting to be a parody of the other one.

Ooh, this is so deliciously confusing now.

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/44 "2009-09-23T18:11:08Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> They were identically titled, yes, but one was attempting to be a parody of the other one.
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> Ooh, this is so deliciously confusing now.

Holy shit. Sorry folks. Well, have fun with it!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/45 "2009-09-23T18:17:45Z")

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I’ll address \*\*Jimmy Joe’s \*\*OP.

When the Dixie Chicks said that shit, not one liberal jumped up and said, “Gosh what patriots they are.” What happened was, they said what they said, and were immediately branded as traitors by you and your retarded ilk … that’s when the liberals piped up and said, “Right-wing, stop being such fucking idiots.”

Apparently the advice didn’t take.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/46 "2009-09-23T18:18:16Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Ooh, this is so deliciously confusing now.

I know, right? And now they have both lost their shot at Sequential Threads.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/47 "2009-09-23T18:26:47Z")

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for the record, **Jimmy Joe** , I never said I had any problem with what Palin said. She can say whatever she wants. I just want to see if the right wing echo chamber is going to be as consistent as I am.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/48 "2009-09-23T18:38:20Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> In its only mention of Obama: _"He said she shied from discussing U.S. politics, though_\* she did say it had been 10 months since Obama took office\*\* and Americans were questioning whether he had made significant headway."\*

Eight months. It’s been 8 months. The woman can’t even count, FFS.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/49 "2009-09-23T18:40:10Z")

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FTR, in this thread, I am calling **JJM** , rather than **DtC** , an idiot.

I hope those that were confused, are no longer confused, and we can all get on with our lives.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/50 "2009-09-23T18:45:34Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> In fairness, I’m not sure she realizes China _is_ another form of government. She just thinks she’s in a really really really big Chinatown.
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> I’m curious who the hell in China is interested in what Palin has to say. She has no political power whatever (she’s not even a governor anymore), they have no votes, so what’s the appeal? Is it just a front to funnel money to her somehow?

You got it in one. Reports put her fee for this speaking engagement in the low six figures.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/51 "2009-09-23T18:47:42Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> I think you forgot to mention the part about it being a private party, closed to the media.

She does private parties now? Cool! I wonder if I can get her for my next birthday! It’ll be the best one since I was three and we had a pony.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/52 "2009-09-23T18:51:36Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> I think you forgot to mention the part about it being a private party, closed to the media.

How is that relevant?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/53 "2009-09-23T18:51:37Z")

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I’ll be your private speaker  
A speaker for money  
Say what you want me to say …

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/54 "2009-09-23T18:54:22Z")

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Oh for Christ’s sake, it’s a ludicrous ‘rule’ anyway (and yes, I thought that when the Repubs were pontificating about it too). Why the hell shouldn’t Americans criticize their leader on foreign soil? It’s bullshit and redolent of, “Shhh! Not in front of the servants, dear.”

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/55 "2009-09-23T19:03:04Z")

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So she punks out as a keynote speaker on all sorts of Conservative American groups, but can make time for the Communist Chinese? I love it!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/56 "2009-09-23T19:05:25Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Oh for Christ’s sake, it’s a ludicrous ‘rule’ anyway (and yes, I thought that when the Repubs were pontificating about it too). Why the hell shouldn’t Americans criticize their leader on foreign soil? It’s bullshit and redolent of, “Shhh! Not in front of the servants, dear.”

I don’t think anyone is saying this here. The critical thing is that certain people are _not_ saying this here, and should in order to be consistent, even if they are wrong.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/57 "2009-09-23T19:05:33Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Did you read the Breitbart article?
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> That sounds like she attacked Obama to me.

Yes, I did. Even watched Breitbart’s video of a part of the speech. You do realize none of the accounts are from a professional, reliable source? The AFP story is not a media transcription, it’s all heresay of unknown persons who may or may not be objective. They’re not reporters, they’re anonymous conference attendees. Accounts of the speech are across the spectrum. That story is off the charts different from what CNN, [MSNBC](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32979700/ns/politics-more_politics/) and others report. The sheer inconsistency doesn’t give you pause? I can’t find anything reputable online that’s picked up the notion she’s attacking Obama.

For the record I think she’s a bloomin’ idiot and is as objectionable of a candidate as could be imagined. I’m also not interested in anything your “right wing echo chamber” has to say. But this… this hits the cutting room floor of a Levi Johnston interview.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/58 "2009-09-23T19:08:02Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> I think you forgot to mention the part about it being a private party, closed to the media.

And the Dixie Chicks were right in the middle of a live press conference on international TV ?

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**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/59 "2009-09-23T19:25:47Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> How is that relevant?

Most people recognize that different standards of etiquette and behaviour apply for private vs public events.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-attacks-the-president-on-foreign-soil/511253/60 "2009-09-23T19:29:06Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Why would you think anybody cares what Sarah Palin is saying, regardless of what type of soil she is on?

Maybe it’s some sort of Dracula thing, where the soil (and where it came from) matters? :eek:

Hmmm. Maybe Obama and Palin can meet for a fight to the death. The Colliseum, like in the famous Bruce Lee vs Chuck Norris fight scene. 😃

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