# Sarah Palin exposed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 15, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425 "2011-09-15T19:07:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/21 "2011-09-15T20:22:26Z")
All I want is pictures of her nekkid. Is that so much to ask? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/22 "2011-09-15T20:25:45Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > All I want is pictures of her nekkid. Is that so much to ask? Nice username / post combo. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/23 "2011-09-15T20:29:48Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > I know he’s not, like, _dead_ or anything. Ermm, um, no, he’s not, sweetie. Banned Dopers get sent to a nice farm upstate, no visitors. Nightie-night! ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/24 "2011-09-15T20:35:08Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > I know he’s not, like, _dead_ or anything. But I still feel bad for laughing at that. Isn’t being dead the same as being permanently banned? Is there anything else quite as much fun wasting all day every day reading SDMB? PS Fuck. Shit. Coprophagy. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/25 "2011-09-15T20:38:51Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Since the [Elections thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=624241) on this was closed, and I probably couldn’t have said this in there anyway: fuck you, you self-righteous, moralizing, right-wing harpy. McGinniss has [exposed](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/09/14/2011-09-14_sarah_palin_had_sex_with_basketball_player_snorted_cocaine_and_cheated_on_husban.html?r=news) you for what you are: a lying, grasping hypocrite. > > Now, I would normally agree with **Skald’s** comment in that thread about not using this information like the right used Clinton’s peccadilloes against him. Your sex life is your own business. But Clinton wasn’t the self-proclaimed bastion of morality that Palin is, and she deserves every bit of what’s coming to her. No wonder she’s been trying to haul in as much cash as possible over the past few years and has been so coy about running for office. Once McGinniss got on her trail, it was only a matter of time before this all came to light. Fuck you, bitch. Oh, Palin deserves a lot of bad things, and in the unlikely event of a Judgment Day she’s gonna have someone 'splaining to do. But I’d prefer to see her attacked for her gleeful stupidity, willful ignorance, and general unSmurfiness than for sexual peccadillos, because doing so not only legitimatizes such attacks, but also exposes my inability to spell “peccadilloes” properly on a consistent basis. > [@Bricker](#): > > And of course, you immediately accept it as the gospel truth? > > And why can’t you leanr what the word hypocrite means? > > Even assuming every word of McGinnis’ stories are true, that doesn’t make her a hypocrite. > > Why can’t everyone just vilify her for being extremely mentally limited, which she is, and avoid the tmeptation to call her stuff she’s not? This is all pretty much true. Even granting that Mrs. Palin has done things in the past that she currently rails against, that does not make her a hypocrite. She’d be a hypocrite if she were currently railing against them while still doing them. And, no, her daughter getting pregnant does not count as anything Mrs. Palin has done, unless by some miracle Mrs. Palin impregnated her. Which would open up a lot of disturbing – nay, horrifying – issues if true. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/26 "2011-09-15T20:43:23Z")
I’m certainly no fan of Ms. Palin’s, but I will wait for substantiation of McGinnis’ claims before allowing myself to dissolve into bouts of finger-pointing and howls of derisive laughter at her. Well, more laughing at her than I already do. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/27 "2011-09-15T20:45:20Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > She’d be a hypocrite if she were currently railing against them while still doing them. What, you mean, she’d actually have to be fucking Glen Rice on camera AS SHE DENOUNCED the act of fucking black guys? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/28 "2011-09-15T20:57:39Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > This is all pretty much true. Even granting that Mrs. Palin has done things in the past that she currently rails against, that does not make her a hypocrite. She’d be a hypocrite if she were currently railing against them while still doing them. If Ms. Palin can debauch herself for years before Seeing the Light, why can’t everyone? God’s given the thumbs-up to later-life repentance, as Palin herself demonstrates. Who is she to question the Lord’s wisdom? She may not qualify as a hypocrite,\* but if she were truly honest, her position would be “party now, shape up later. I did!” - Actually I’m fairly certain she does, even if she’s not doing blow anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/29 "2011-09-15T20:59:15Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > What, you mean, she’d actually have to be fucking Glen Rice on camera AS SHE DENOUNCED the act of fucking black guys? In the first place, I am not aware of Mrs. Palin ever decrying interracial sex or interracial relationships. I’m not saying she never has, incidentally; just that I cannot think of any instances. But since such an accusation is racist on its face, and since racism is generally felt to be a very serious character flaw, I think it behooves you to actually point to instances in which she’s done so. In the second place – well, let’s pretend that you actually meant that Mrs. Palin opposes casual sexual encounters. I’ll grant that she does. But the fact that she opposes them NOW does not mean that she is asserting that she’s never had them in the past. Hypocrisy is a pretense of moral standards which one does not possess. Note the present tense. One can have engaged in behavior in the past which one would not currently engage in, and decry those previous behaviors, without being a hypocrite. To claim otherwise, it seems to me, is to require that anyone making any sort of moral statement be as sinless as Christ is alleged to have been, and that’s simply not a reasonable position. As my best old ex-friend Dave used to say, “Words have meaning.” When you stretch the meaning of hypocrisy to include any behavior that an accused hypocrite has engaged in during his or her lifetime, regardless of whether she or he is currently doing such things, you rip all meaning out of the word. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/30 "2011-09-15T21:00:39Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > \ > > But I’d prefer to see her attacked for her gleeful stupidity, willful ignorance, and general unSmurfiness than for sexual peccadillos, because doing so not only legitimatizes such attacks, but also exposes my inability to spell “peccadilloes” properly on a consistent basis. You’ve just described the daily news blurbs about her. > [@](#): > > This is all pretty much true. Even granting that Mrs. Palin has done things in the past that she currently rails against, that does not make her a hypocrite. She’d be a hypocrite if she were currently railing against them while still doing them. And, no, her daughter getting pregnant does not count as anything Mrs. Palin has done, unless by some miracle Mrs. Palin impregnated her. Which would open up a lot of disturbing – nay, horrifying – issues if true. As **Zoid** pointed out, Merriam’s online dictionary disagrees with your definition. Also, Bricker should learn to spell “leanr”, which is a term used in horseshoes. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/31 "2011-09-15T21:06:43Z")
I agree with **Skald** completely. You could say I’m on him like Palin on Rice. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/32 "2011-09-15T21:13:06Z")
> [@](#): > > As **Zoid** pointed out, Merriam’s online dictionary disagrees with your definition. I’m too lazy to see if zoid actually cited MW, so I’ll do it now: [ [QUOTE=seriously? you can’t figure this out?] : a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion [/QUOTE] ](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/+hypocrisy?show=0&t=1316120584) I don’t see how that contradicts my definition. Persons who call Mrs. Palin a hypocrite are insisting, perversely I think, that if one’s past behavior does nto conform in every detail to one’s presently-stated beliefs, one is necessarily a hypocrite. That is foolish. It denies the possibility of change, of growth (and for that matter of degeneration). When I was 17 I picked on smaller kids. When I was 25 I cheated on my girlfriends. When I was 27 I was verbally and emotionally abusive to my girlfriend. I wouldn’t do any of those things now, and I hold the earlier versions of me in contempt. Does my former bullying, infidelity, and abusiveness mean that I cannot now honestly believe that those things are all bad? > [@](#): > > Also, Bricker should learn to spell “leanr”, which is a term used in horseshoes. That was clearly a typo. Everyone makes them. That has nothing to do with his argument. Look. I think Sarah Palin is a nincompoop so foolish that she is actually proud of her ignorance. She’s not qualified for any public post higher than dogcatcher. Her performance as mayor of Wasilla and governor of Alaska was alternately risible and terrifying. But that doesn’t mean she can’t honestly believe that it’s best not to have casual sex; nor should she be obliged to discuss every detail of her life that’s led her to this point. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/33 "2011-09-15T21:40:31Z")
I’m sorry, but exactly how could Dio be banned for that Palin thread he started?? I didn’t see a lot of name calling like I do in other threads in any other category by plenty of Dopers, myself included. WTF?? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/34 "2011-09-15T21:46:35Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > That was clearly a typo. Everyone makes them. That has nothing to do with his argument. And that part of my post was a joke; you might try growing a sense of humor. As for the rest of it: as so many on this board are quick to point out, common usage of words changes over time. The use of “hypocrite” in this case is certainly a common part of today’s lexicon. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/35 "2011-09-15T21:48:57Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I’m sorry, but exactly how could Dio be banned for that Palin thread he started?? I didn’t see a lot of name calling like I do in other threads in any other category by plenty of Dopers, myself included. > > WTF?? There’s a thread in ATMB about this. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/36 "2011-09-15T21:54:27Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I’m sorry, but exactly how could Dio be banned for that Palin thread he started?? I didn’t see a lot of name calling like I do in other threads in any other category by plenty of Dopers, myself included. > > WTF?? The answer to that question is probably somewhere in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=624359). (Answering it here would be off-topic.) ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/37 "2011-09-15T21:57:29Z")
I’m not sure of Merriam-Webster’s stand on the issue, but I’d say that someone who publicly decries a certain kind of behavior without publicly acknowledging that she engaged in the same behavior (albeit in the past) can legitimately be accused of hypocrisy. That said, I agree with Skald. I don’t care that Palin had sex with a basketball player. We should criticize her because she’s a dimwit who somehow rallies enthusiastic crowds just by smiling and speaking drivel. She out-Reagans Reagan, and competes well with W. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/38 "2011-09-15T22:34:34Z")
It kind of makes me wonder if Palin quitting as governor, and apparently not seeking public office, has anything to do with her knowing that these revelations would be coming down the pike. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/39 "2011-09-15T22:42:22Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > And that part of my post was a joke; you might try growing a sense of humor. I have neither a sense of humor nor the capacity for whimsy. No Rhymer ever has. The only Rhymer who has ever approached frivolity was my great uncle Baldr, who, in 1917, was heard to utter a sardonic, bitter witticism about the Great War. A family meeting was held and after a raucous debate it was decided that while disemboweling him was an over-reaction it was clear he had to be castrated. I would tell you what was done with his testicles but I am not certain that Qin is not reading the thread and I do not wish to shock a child. > [@](#): > > As for the rest of it: as so many on this board are quick to point out, common usage of words changes over time. The use of “hypocrite” in this case is certainly a common part of today’s lexicon. My point is that using the word “hypocrite” as many of y’all are – that is, to mean a person who speaks against actions of which he was guilty in the past – stretches the meaning of the word to such a degree that it loses all coherence. It would be as if people started ignorantly claiming that a ray of light focused through a lens becomes a laser. Such a usage might be common, but it would remain stupid. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/40 "2011-09-15T23:28:45Z")
From the OP’s cite: > [@](#): > > A review of the book on the New York Times’ website suggests the author egged Rice on with leading questions and never specifically says they had an encounter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425.md?page=3)