# Sarah Palin exposed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 15, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425 "2011-09-15T19:07:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/41 "2011-09-15T23:37:04Z")
Here’s a quote from the [NYT’s review](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/15/books/joe-mcginnisss-the-rogue-on-sarah-palin-review.html?ref=books) on their website: > [@](#): > > Although most of “The Rogue” is dated, petty and easily available to anyone with Internet access, Mr. McGinniss used his time in Alaska to chase caustic, unsubstantiated gossip about the Palins, often from unnamed sources like “one resident” and “a friend.” > > And these stories need not be consistent. “The Rogue” suggests that Todd Palin and the young Sarah Heath took drugs. It also says that she lacked boyfriends and was a racist. And it includes this: “A friend says, ‘Sarah and her sisters had a fetish for black guys for a while.’ ” Mr. McGinniss did in 2011 make a phone call to the former N.B.A. basketball player Glen Rice, who is black, and prompted him to acknowledge having fond memories of Sarah Heath. While Mr. Rice avoids specifics and uses the words “respectful” and “a sweetheart,” Mr. McGinniss eggs him on with the kind of flagrantly leading question he seems to have habitually asked. In Mr. Rice’s case: “So you never had the feeling she felt bad about having sex with a black guy?” I get a strong sense from that review that the book should not be taken at face value. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/42 "2011-09-15T23:45:22Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > To flesh that out (sorry) a bit further, Palin has trumpeted her religious beliefs, repeatedly pointed to events in her life as being part of “God’s plan” and had this to say in sneering at the “lame stream media” for supposedly viewing religious people as alien beings: > > _“What is threatening about the Ten Commandments, a moral code that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, the religions that account for 97% of all Americans believers, recognizes as the basis for living a good life?”_ > > from “America By Heart” by Sarah Palin, 2010, p. 215 > > I don’t know if McGinniss’ revelations are true. but if they are, Palin will deserve the label of “hypocrite”. > > **Bricker** , this is an even bigger loser for you than attempting to deny the hypocrisy of William Bennett, who preached to us about Virtue before it was revealed that he’d lost a ton of money gambling. Hopefully you won’t go parsing off the deep end in this instance as well. A heroin addict that kicked the habit and works as a drug counselor, then, is a hypocrite? No. And there is no reason in the world to not preach about virtue and then gamble, unless you claim that gambling is unvirtuous. If you don’t condemn gambling, there is no way generic claims about virtue can be read to mean you’re anti-gambling. You have this idiotic idea that being a moral scold somehow obligates you to believe in every issue any other moral scold also believes in. Somehow, by talking about virtue, Bennett was secretly saying he was against gambling. What else was he saying? Was he against football on Sunday, the Lord’s Day? Was he against alcohol? Was he against gum chewing? Smoking? Tobacco in other forms? Caffeine? Was he against mixing meat and dairy products? Tell me, oh Seer of Seers, oh Prognosticator of Prognosticators, just what was in Bennett’s mind? Because, you see, fuck if I know. I just read his book and assumed that what he said in it is what he was saying. I didn’t have a nutso psychic like you on hand to reveal what that cagey motherfucker was REALLY thinking. Maybe, to simplify these issues in the future, you could publish a web page with your valued insights on the real meanings of words in the English language. Put those fuckers at Merriam-Webster right the fuck out of business, that will. All these years those assholes have been trying to tell us they knew what words meant. Why the fuck didn’t you ever apply for a job there? You could have set those cocksuckers straight in no time, patiently expelling that the actual words don’t mean shit … It’s what YOU think they mean that matters. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/43 "2011-09-16T00:13:31Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You have this idiotic idea that being a moral scold somehow obligates you to believe in every issue any other moral scold also believes in. Well yes, I think that if one lambastes opponents for not recognizing the overwhelming importance of the Ten Commandments, one should have demonstrated an ongoing commitment to observing them (noting that there are questions as to whether Palin has actually been violating said Commandments). As to anyone who upholds him or herself as an exponent of Virtue, you don’t get to pick and choose what virtues to personally espouse as a matter of convenience. You\* can write bestsellers about virtuous behavior but if you get caught committing bestiality, you won’t get off the hook by pointing out that your books didn’t _specifically_ address fornicating with barnyard animals. And if you\*\* get off on castigating board liberals for hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty, it behooves you to understand the meaning of those terms and to avoid falling into similar traps yourself. \*the generic “you”. \*\*not the generic “you”. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/44 "2011-09-16T00:33:12Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Well yes, I think that if one lambastes opponents for not recognizing the overwhelming importance of the Ten Commandments, one should have demonstrated an ongoing commitment to observing them (noting that there are questions as to whether Palin has actually been violating said Commandments). OK, I’m idly curious, as a liberal Democat who, while mostly laissez-faire about vices (everybody has the right to ruin their own life in their own way), is also opposed to institutionalized gambling–I wonder, which of the Ten Commandments prohibits gambling? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/45 "2011-09-16T00:54:15Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > OK, I’m idly curious, as a liberal Democat who, while mostly laissez-faire about vices (everybody has the right to ruin their own life in their own way), is also opposed to institutionalized gambling–I wonder, which of the Ten Commandments prohibits gambling? Thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s donkey. Assuming that you’re playing for your neighbor’s donkey - so it may not prohibit _all_ gambling, but at least a subset ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/46 "2011-09-16T01:22:45Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I have neither a sense of humor nor the capacity for whimsy. No Rhymer ever has. The only Rhymer who has ever approached frivolity was my great uncle Baldr, who, in 1917, was heard to utter a sardonic, bitter witticism about the Great War. A family meeting was held and after a raucous debate it was decided that while disemboweling him was an over-reaction it was clear he had to be castrated. I would tell you what was done with his testicles but I am not certain that Qin is not reading the thread and I do not wish to shock a child. > > My point is that using the word “hypocrite” as many of y’all are – that is, to mean a person who speaks against actions of which he was guilty in the past – stretches the meaning of the word to such a degree that it loses all coherence. It would be as if people started ignorantly claiming that a ray of light focused through a lens becomes a laser. Such a usage might be common, but it would remain stupid. Very well written. A literate person, you are. I’m sure the usage of the word grates on people just like using “momentarily” to mean “in a moment” grates on me. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/47 "2011-09-16T01:29:48Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > A heroin addict that kicked the habit and works as a drug counselor, then, is a hypocrite? > [SNIP} No, but a heroin addict that claimed to have never had the habit and who worked furiously to demonize and denigrate those who suffer from heroin addiction while still being an unadmitted addict surely would be. Your habit of parsing words and stretching credulity to fit your preconceived worldview is wearying. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/48 "2011-09-16T01:46:43Z")
[Coke-snorting jungle fever is the real America, says Palin](http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/coke%11snorting-jungle-fever-is-the-real-america%2c-says-palin-201109154310/) Haven’t seen or heard anything about the book that could make me give a shit about Sarah Palin. If you need this book to think less of Sarah Palin, you haven’t been paying attention. I will say that I’m disappointed to hear the book contains large about of gossipy blather. I’d wager there’s a fair amount of actual real dirt to dig up and investigate. Of course that wouldn’t sell for shit so the author decided to play the “coke whore” card. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/49 "2011-09-16T02:02:07Z")
I’m reminded of the book, The Clinton Chronicles, that Jerry Fallwell was peddling back in the 90s. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/50 "2011-09-16T02:09:53Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > A heroin addict that kicked the habit and works as a drug counselor, then, is a hypocrite? Dunno. Is he a “don’t make mistakes like me” counselor or a “follow the path of virtue like me” counselor? > [@](#): > > And there is no reason in the world to not preach about virtue and then gamble, unless you claim that gambling is unvirtuous. If you don’t condemn gambling, there is no way generic claims about virtue can be read to mean you’re anti-gambling. > > You have this idiotic idea that being a moral scold somehow obligates you to believe in every issue any other moral scold also believes in. I require consistency. If he has some unknown basis for carving out gambling from the standard moral-scold menu… well, as I said, it’s unknown until he chooses to reveal it. If his basis is the obvious one of self-interest… well, his dentist might want to recommend a switch to unsweetened porridge. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/51 "2011-09-16T02:11:55Z")
I believe that Ms Palin has degraded herself to levels of douche baguette that dignity and privacy are no longer credible. There is no snarking season, she is duck, she is rabbit, and she is in season. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/52 "2011-09-16T02:18:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I believe that Ms Palin has degraded herself to levels of douche baguette that dignity and privacy are no longer credible. There is no snarking season, she is duck, she is rabbit, and she is in season. Nonsense. Just because she chooses to give up her dignity doesn’t mean she can’t have privacy. And again, there are already plenty of valid reasons to have a low opinion of her already. Why dig up petty ones from her past? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/53 "2011-09-16T02:23:39Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Since the [Elections thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=624241) on this was closed, and I probably couldn’t have said this in there anyway: fuck you, you self-righteous, moralizing, right-wing harpy. McGinniss has [exposed](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/09/14/2011-09-14_sarah_palin_had_sex_with_basketball_player_snorted_cocaine_and_cheated_on_husban.html?r=news) you for what you are: a lying, grasping hypocrite. Is there any truth at all to to McGiniss’s allegations? I haven’t heard a whisper about this anywhere except here on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/54 "2011-09-16T02:27:09Z")
> [@MikeG](#): > > No, but a heroin addict that claimed to have never had the habit and who worked furiously to demonize and denigrate those who suffer from heroin addiction while still being an unadmitted addict surely would be. > > Your habit of parsing words and stretching credulity to fit your preconceived worldview is wearying. Said better than I could have. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/55 "2011-09-16T02:31:04Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Why dig up petty ones from her past? Because they’re funny? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/56 "2011-09-16T02:49:07Z")
A trivial and shallow concern. Clearly, you are not a serious person. Sit over here, and I’ll get us a couple beers. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/57 "2011-09-16T02:56:43Z")
Get one for yourself, too. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/58 "2011-09-16T02:58:29Z")
Bill Walton tweets: > [@Bill Walton](#): > > Sarah Palin had an intimate relationship with Glen Rice in the 80s. Rice tried to resist but he was never one to stop anyone from scoring. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/59 "2011-09-16T02:58:31Z")
“The book also reports that Palin was once seen snorting cocaine off the top of a 55-gallon drum while snowmobiling with friends.” Respect. That takes skills. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425/60 "2011-09-16T03:02:21Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > “The book also reports that Palin was once seen snorting cocaine off the top of a 55-gallon drum while snowmobiling with friends.” > > Respect. That takes skills. No shit! I don’t think I could even ride a snowmobile while sitting on top of a 55 gallon drum, _ **MUCH LESS** _ while doing blow! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-exposed/596425.md?page=4)