# Sarah Palin: I can beat Obama in 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 18, 2010, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080 "2010-11-18T09:33:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/61 "2010-11-18T18:55:40Z")

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She is getting extremely good press coverage aimed directly at her constituency. Fox spends all day pushing her. Now she has a TV show that will increase her audience, Sorry if you think that is pure coincidence. She gets great press 24 hours a day. The quitinator will be able to be president if she wants to. Her dingbat image is being cleaned up and high power Republican are pushing her every day. In America that is enough. She will win. She is the least qualified person to run in many decades. It does not matter. Fox picks our presidents now.  
Fox sells her as a queen maker. If she endorses you, you will win. Ask Angle, Miller, O’Donnell and a few other how well it works. It does not matter. They will sell it as a fact and the voters will buy it.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/62 "2010-11-18T19:23:56Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> From the UK side of the Atlantic I’d say it was unthinkable.
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> I don’t know of anyone over here who thinks she is anything other than a plank…a joke
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> My US colleagues (of whom I have many) think the same. I know the loony fringe exist in all countries but she can’t possibly have enough popular support…can she?
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> Here’s my prediction, the stock market will dive…heavily, if she is even so much as nominated.

I had this exact discussion with my Irish cousins during W’s second election campaign. They just couldn’t believe that absolutely anybody would ever vote for the man a second time. I told them I was afraid it would be at best a near thing. They were flabbergasted.

The important thing to remember is that a majority of Americans do not make their voting decisions on an intellectual basis. Their decision is based upon emotional response, and the Republicans have become extremely adept at creating that energy and “momentum.” It is extremely difficult to dissuade the idealogical voter with facts.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/63 "2010-11-18T19:27:16Z")

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It’s pretty difficult to dissuade _any_ voter with facts.

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/64 "2010-11-18T20:05:31Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> And more importantly, the votes of everyone who can’t stomach voting for the inventor of Obamacare.

Romney was actually against ObamaCare. The similarities are only superficial. Romney is actually against the current legislation.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/65 "2010-11-18T20:06:18Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Rod/Sammich in '12!

Mmmm, rod sandwich…

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/66 "2010-11-18T20:15:15Z")

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> [@I\_Know\_Nothing](#):
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> she’ll get the proper scrutiny… I think she’ll end up looking as luny as O’donell.

The scary thing is that Odonell won a respectable 40% of the vote. In Delaware, which isn’t a hotbed of right-wing crazies.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/67 "2010-11-18T20:40:13Z")

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> [@Balthisar](#):
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> Romney was actually against ObamaCare. The similarities are only superficial. Romney is actually against the current legislation.

Romney’s position notwithstanding, the similarities are most certainly _not_ superficial. Almost every substantive provision of the final bill is analogous to a provision of the Massachusetts system.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/68 "2010-11-18T21:05:23Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> The scary thing is that Odonell won a respectable 40% of the vote. In Delaware, which isn’t a hotbed of right-wing crazies.

I still think she sailed through because they confuse her with Sally Fields.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/69 "2010-11-18T21:42:25Z")

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:smack:

Please replace “sailed through” with “Got as far as she did”

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/70 "2010-11-18T21:44:09Z")

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Speaking from the heartland of Teapublica, I think it is not only possible but likely.

Reason, science and facts are part of the failed Leftist conspiracy!

Most of the Teapublicans I know get all their info from Fox and Rush.

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/71 "2010-11-19T01:02:41Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> All Obama (or anyone) would have to do to is flood the airwaves with an ad that simply stated:
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> “The people of Alaska elected Sarah Palin to lead them, and when the job got hard, she quit. Vote insert name here”

Of course, that would also require they have some balls.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/72 "2010-11-19T01:46:33Z")

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Yeah, and I can win the lottery in 2012. But I won’t. Someone will, but it won’t be me.

I think that it is entirely possible that she can get the Republican nomination, but I seriously doubt that she is stupid enough to want it. She’s making great bucks now and for the next few years pretending to be in the running.

Should she run, Obama is more than likely to wipe the floor with her and erase all 2010 congressional gains by the Republicans. Most independents and many Republicans will refuse to vote for her or vote for Obama.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/73 "2010-11-19T07:38:14Z")

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I don’t see it. Sure she’s got a base who will avidly support her. But her base isn’t going to give her a majority. A candidate needs to bring in the swing votes and I don’t think she can.

Obama will have one indisputable advantage in 2012 - he’ll be the incumbent President. That automatically makes him the “safe” choice. The Republicans would be a lot smarter running somebody who looks experienced and reassuring to offset that image.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/74 "2010-11-19T07:42:08Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> I think that it is entirely possible that she can get the Republican nomination, but I seriously doubt that she is stupid enough to want it. She’s making great bucks now and for the next few years pretending to be in the running.

No, I think she’s going to go for it. The problem is she’s living in the bubble - she’s surrounding herself by the people who are wild about her. I don’t think she realizes how quickly enthusiasm for her drops off once you get outside of her base.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/75 "2010-11-19T07:48:04Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> The scary thing is that Odonell won a respectable 40% of the vote. In Delaware, which isn’t a hotbed of right-wing crazies.

131,000,000 people voted in the 2008 election. 82,000,000 people voted in the 2010 election. The people who vote in mid-term elections tend to be the people with stronger political passions. Presidential elections attract a more general crowd.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/76 "2010-11-19T11:12:26Z")

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I appreciate all the responses. I’m still frightened by the idea that she just might win.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/77 "2010-11-19T11:18:16Z")

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Be afraid - be very afraid. It could happen. Palin might be the only way Dubya loses the title of “Worst POTUS Ever”.

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/78 "2010-11-19T13:20:37Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Most independents and many Republicans will refuse to vote for her or vote for Obama.

Hey, maybe the Libertarian Party will finally get a respectable showing! Palin really _could be_ be best thing to happen to this country.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/79 "2010-11-19T13:42:09Z")

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My co-worker voted for Bush because he is cuter than John Kerry. Seriously. I know you think I am making this up. I am not.

Be afraid.

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-i-can-beat-obama-in-2012/561080/80 "2010-11-19T15:24:51Z")

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> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#):
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> My co-worker voted for Bush because he is cuter than John Kerry. Seriously. I know you think I am making this up. I am not.
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> Be afraid.

My mother voted for Clinton because he was cute, and my step father voted for Clinton because his union told him he had to.

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