# Sarah Palin Knew That The USA's Credit Rating Was Going To Be Downgraded; What Else Does She Know? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 10, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265 "2011-08-10T23:24:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/41 "2011-08-11T23:37:19Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No telepathy required, just basic patenting. This isn’t a court of law. We don’t have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Sarah knew everything her kids were up to (and she probably didn’t know _everything_), but at a minimum, as a seated juror in the court of public opinion, I find by a preponderance of the evidence that she at least _should_ have known her daughter was drinking and was sexually active. If she couldn’t at least pick up on that much, then she wasn’t paying attention as a parent. I cannot claim expertise on the Palin family’s escapades, but I don’t trust your declarative factual summaries and conclusions much. For example, it seems to me that Levi has made many comments intended to portray the Palins in a negative light. It also seems to me that the source for the claim that Levi spent overnights in Bristol’s room, and that Sarah knew, was Levi’s own revelations on the Tyra Banks talk show. Is there some other, more reliable, reason to believe this claim? There may well be – I just don’t know it. Even if Sarah knew Bristol was sexually active, and even if she knew Bristol drank alcohol, how did she know it was blackout, falling-down drunk? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/42 "2011-08-12T00:01:24Z")
Has anyone in the Palin family denied that Levi was sleeping in Bristol’s room? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/43 "2011-08-12T00:10:18Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > For example, it seems to me that Levi has made many comments intended to portray the Palins in a negative light. It also seems to me that the source for the claim that Levi spent overnights in Bristol’s room, and that Sarah knew, was Levi’s own revelations on the Tyra Banks talk show. Is there some other, more reliable, reason to believe this claim? There may well be – I just don’t know it. Well, Bristol did get pregnant. If Levi says they had sex in her room, and Sarah says they never had sex, the evidence would seem to make his claim a little more credible. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/44 "2011-08-12T01:30:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No, not everyone likes those things. > > And the question was not if it were possible she was thinking “Bristol, baby, you GO, girl.” The question was: how are we certain she knew about them? How are you certain she did not? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/45 "2011-08-12T01:49:09Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > I can hardly wait. :rolleyes: Although her presence at the fair just means one addition to the carny folk, I guess. I pity the 4-H kids that have to groom her… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/46 "2011-08-12T01:59:29Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > If only. Guess who’s coming to our Iowa State Fair ('it’s a great state fair") this Friday? Just ahead of the big Ames straw poll on Saturday? She’s resuming her bus tour, she claims. Apparently long enough to get from the airport to the fair and back again. > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Will nobody rid us of this turbulent MILF? GILF ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/47 "2011-08-12T02:01:10Z")
I thought she had jury duty. Whatever happened with that? ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/48 "2011-08-12T02:03:36Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > I pity the 4-H kids that have to groom her… C’mon, you guys: we don’t have to get nasty here, do we? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/49 "2011-08-12T02:17:54Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No telepathy required, just basic patenting. She holds the patent on being a dumb fuck? Holy shit, that explains everything. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/50 "2011-08-12T02:24:11Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I thought she had jury duty. Whatever happened with that? [This](http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/sarah-palin-no-jury-duty-june) is the best I can find. > [@](#): > > Celebrity politician Sarah Palin’s stint as a prospective juror in Alaska appears to be over. The courthouse in Palmer had this recorded message Thursday: > > “To all June petit jurors, your services will not be needed for the remainder of the month. On behalf of the Alaska Court System, I would like to thank you for your dedicated service this past month.” > > … > > The former mayor of Wasilla, Palin would do her jury duty at the courthouse in nearby Palmer. There was a call for jurors there Tuesday, but Palin was that day in Iowa at the screening of a movie about her political life in Alaska. It is also possible she was called to serve on the Palmer grand jury, which is still meeting, but it appears to have also held meetings while she was gone. > > … ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/51 "2011-08-12T02:29:02Z")
So basically she was probably full of shit about having been called at all. She certainly never had to leave her bus tour for it two months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/52 "2011-08-12T09:44:08Z")
Sarah is a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/53 "2011-08-12T13:10:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Has anyone in the Palin family denied that Levi was sleeping in Bristol’s room? Not that I’m aware of, but as this board made a habit of pointing out, Glen Beck never denied murdering a girl, either. And Obama has never denied sending naked pictures of himself to actress Scarlett Johansson. Nonetheless, I don’t believe we can conclude that Beck is a murderer or Obama is corresponding inappropriately with Johansson. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/54 "2011-08-12T13:14:40Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > How are you certain she did not? I’m not certain. But I didn’t claim to be certain. I’m asking the OP how he became certain. The OP asserts as fact that Palin’s daughter liked to get blackout, falling-down drunk. I didn’t assert that she didn’t – I aksed how he knew that she did. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/55 "2011-08-12T13:17:34Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Sarah is a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor. Funny - she doesn’t \*look \*Anal. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/56 "2011-08-12T13:19:43Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Well, Bristol did get pregnant. If Levi says they had sex in her room, and Sarah says they never had sex, the evidence would seem to make his claim a little more credible. But those aren’t the only options, are they? [Bristol also had sex in a tent](http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/bristol-palin-i-lost-my-virginity-while-drunk-201118), for example. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/57 "2011-08-12T14:29:10Z")
Wouldn’t it be more convenient to just tape a microphone to her head and broadcast the voices to everyone instead of waiting for her to relay their messages to the rest of us? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/58 "2011-08-12T18:12:16Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Wouldn’t it be more convenient to just tape a microphone to her head and broadcast the voices to everyone instead of waiting for her to relay their messages to the rest of us? Stop a minute and think that plan through. Do the rest of us really WANT to be bombarded by the voices she’s hearing? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/59 "2011-08-12T18:19:46Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > [This](http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/sarah-palin-no-jury-duty-june) is the best I can find. So she’s a lying sack of shit, but her followers still worship her. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265/60 "2011-08-12T19:24:09Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Not that I’m aware of, but as this board made a habit of pointing out, Glen Beck never denied murdering a girl, either. > > And Obama has never denied sending naked pictures of himself to actress Scarlett Johansson. > > Nonetheless, I don’t believe we can conclude that Beck is a murderer or Obama is corresponding inappropriately with Johansson. I see nothing inappropriate about communicating with Ms. Johansson in such a manner, the restraining order be damned. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sarah-palin-knew-that-the-usas-credit-rating-was-going-to-be-downgraded-what-else-does-she-know/592265.md?page=4)